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    ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price

    Elasticsearch

    Score8.5 out of 10
    N/AElasticsearch is an enterprise search tool from Elastic in Mountain View, California.

    $16

    per month

    MindTouch

    Score7 out of 10
    N/AMindTouch is a customer experience management platform with content management and help authoring capabilities. Formerly known as MediaWiki, it is optimized for building knowledge bases for customer self-service and agent assistance purposes.N/A
    Pricing
    ElasticsearchMindTouch
    Editions & Modules
    Standard
    $16.00
    per month
    Gold
    $19.00
    per month
    Platinum
    $22.00
    per month
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    Pricing Offerings
    ElasticsearchMindTouch
    Free Trial
    NoYes
    Free/Freemium Version
    NoNo
    Premium Consulting/Integration Services
    NoYes
    Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
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    ElasticsearchMindTouch
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    Elastic
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    MindTouch
    Chose MindTouch
    MS SharePoint was knocked out of the running almost immediately because we don't want to have to hire a dedicated resource just to maintain the technical side of things. We would rather invest in resources to help create and update our content. A wiki is just too general …
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    Would buy again
    82%
    Would buy again
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    Delivers good value for the price
    100%
    Delivers good value for the price
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    Happy with the feature set
    100%
    Happy with the feature set
    17 Answers
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    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    100%
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
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    Implementation went as expected
    87%
    Implementation went as expected
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    User Ratings
    ElasticsearchMindTouch
    Likelihood to Recommend
    9.0
    (48 ratings)
    7.6
    (110 ratings)
    Likelihood to Renew
    10.0
    (1 ratings)
    8.8
    (18 ratings)
    Usability
    10.0
    (1 ratings)
    7.5
    (29 ratings)
    Performance
    -
    (0 ratings)
    8.0
    (10 ratings)
    Support Rating
    7.8
    (9 ratings)
    7.8
    (31 ratings)
    Online Training
    -
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    8.8
    (5 ratings)
    Implementation Rating
    9.0
    (1 ratings)
    7.7
    (10 ratings)
    Configurability
    -
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    5.0
    (5 ratings)
    Ease of integration
    -
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    9.0
    (1 ratings)
    Product Scalability
    -
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    1.4
    (3 ratings)
    Vendor post-sale
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    9.3
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    User Testimonials
    ElasticsearchMindTouch
    Likelihood to Recommend
    Elastic
    Elasticsearch is a really scalable solution that can fit a lot of needs, but the bigger and/or those needs become, the more understanding & infrastructure you will need for your instance to be running correctly. Elasticsearch is not problem-free - you can get yourself in a lot of trouble if you are not following good practices and/or if are not managing the cluster correctly. Licensing is a big decision point here as Elasticsearch is a middleware component - be sure to read the licensing agreement of the version you want to try before you commit to it. Same goes for long-term support - be sure to keep yourself in the know for this aspect you may end up stuck with an unpatched version for years.
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    MindTouch
    If a company doesn't want to make their knowledge base public-facing, you lose a lot of the value of using MindTouch in a closed environment. MindTouch is not ideal for extremely structured content management scenarios that are strong DITA advocates. Companies that require localization might not be good fits either.
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    Pros
    Elastic
    • As I mentioned before, Elasticsearch's flexible data model is unparalleled. You can nest fields as deeply as you want, have as many fields as you want, but whatever you want in those fields (as long as it stays the same type), and all of it will be searchable and you don't need to even declare a schema beforehand!
    • Elastic, the company behind Elasticsearch, is super strong financially and they have a great team of devs and product managers working on Elasticsearch. When I first started using ES 3 years ago, I was 90% impressed and knew it would be a good fit. 3 years later, I am 200% impressed and blown away by how far it has come and gotten even better. If there are features that are missing or you don't think it's fast enough right now, I bet it'll be suitable next year because the team behind it is so dang fast!
    • Elasticsearch is really, really stable. It takes a lot to bring down a cluster. It's self-balancing algorithms, leader-election system, self-healing properties are state of the art. We've never seen network failures or hard-drive corruption or CPU bugs bring down an ES cluster.
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    MindTouch
    • MindTouch helps to easily organize our help articles to ensure that our end user is receiving the proper information.
    • The MindTouch platform is extremely easy to navigate which reduces the turnaround time for our team to publish new material.
    • The editor tools supplied through MindTouch make styling our documentation a breeze.
    • The contextual help tool allows our customers to consume documentation based on the page they are viewing in our platform.
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    Cons
    Elastic
    • Joining data requires duplicate de-normalized documents that make parent child relationships. It is hard and requires a lot of synchronizations
    • Tracking errors in the data in the logs can be hard, and sometimes recurring errors blow up the error logs
    • Schema changes require complete reindexing of an index
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    MindTouch
    • When we do have a support issue, we frequently need to go through multiple people, contacts, ways of explaining things, etc,. before someone on their end actually understands our problem. It's rare that the first person we talk to understands the big picture or appreciates our use case.
    • The draft functionality is a promising start but lacks some key features that cause us regular frustration. For example, you can only create one draft of a page at a time. This is fine if changes come to you in perfect sequential order, but it makes it impossible for us to update a live page while a draft exists. More specifically, if we're working on updating content on a page for a new feature being released next month, but then we notice a typo today, we can't fix the typo in production without first deleting the draft or doing some hacky workaround of temporarily copying/pasting the source HTML of the draft page and saving it someplace else.
    • Existence of, or integration with, true source control would be a huge win, but it's something currently lacking in the product. MindTouch's content reuse feature is helpful in the right situations, but it's not robust enough to scale well for lots of content.
    • Version history of page changes is not 100% reliable. Sometimes items don't show up at all or there is a delay before the diff is visible. Also, creating a draft does not register at all in the page version history.
    • In-site search is poor, unless you know the *exact* title of what you're looking for. We tell our customers to use Google, not the MindTouch search. Google is excellent at searching our MindTouch site.
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    Likelihood to Renew
    Elastic
    We're pretty heavily invested in ElasticSearch at this point, and there aren't any obvious negatives that would make us reconsider this decision.
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    MindTouch
    We've put lots and lots of content into the MindTouch system, of course, so that makes it harder to opt out, but we're also very pleased with their rate of development and weekly pushing of improvements, as well as their response and solutions to our questions and input All in all, a winning combination.
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    Usability
    Elastic
    To get started with Elasticsearch, you don't have to get very involved in configuring what really is an incredibly complex system under the hood. You simply install the package, run the service, and you're immediately able to begin using it. You don't need to learn any sort of query language to add data to Elasticsearch or perform some basic searching. If you're used to any sort of RESTful API, getting started with Elasticsearch is a breeze. If you've never interacted with a RESTful API directly, the journey may be a little more bumpy. Overall, though, it's incredibly simple to use for what it's doing under the covers.
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    MindTouch
    The site is responsive across multiple devices and screens. It has a clear path to contact support. The articles are searchable. Site users do have trouble navigating the site and finding what they need. That may be due to the architecture of the site, but it'd be nice if MindTouch offered more solutions are this. Our content is organized by product line. And many of those product lines have overlapping training content, so we have extensive duplicate content.
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    Performance
    Elastic
    No answers on this topic
    MindTouch
    MindTouch is a hosted site, so as a heavy user there are times when I notice that pages are slow to load, or something happens like Amazon Web Services crashing the entire east coast for a few hours, that you do notice even if it isn't actually the fault of the MT tool itself. It's the risk of using a hosted tool, but the benefits are pretty amazing and outweigh these performance issues.
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    Support Rating
    Elastic
    We've only used it as an opensource tooling. We did not purchase any additional support to roll out the elasticsearch software. When rolling out the application on our platform we've used the documentation which was available online. During our test phases we did not experience any bugs or issues so we did not rely on support at all.
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    MindTouch
    It's good. Pretty solid. We got a lot of input to get up and running, but did a lot of the setup and customization work ourselves, because of our high standards. We've gotten good response and results on specific projects related to customization and our CSM is also pretty responsive. Overall, I think that the jobs of CSMs and support folks would be easier if the product weren't wonky in some ways. They seem to have to do more "workarounds" for basic functionality that should just work out of the box
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    Online Training
    Elastic
    No answers on this topic
    MindTouch
    Written documentation and videos are very good and have helped on numerous occasions when I've had to look up how to accomplish a certain task. The reason I have not given a full score is mainly because there have been some inaccuracies in the documentation because updates to the MindTouch framework have slightly changed the way things work. But this is usually the same type of challenges I face when making documentation for the software solution we develop. So all in all I'm very satisfied with both the personal webinars and the online documentation MindTouch provides for their service.
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    Implementation Rating
    Elastic
    Do not mix data and master roles. Dedicate at least 3 nodes just for Master
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    MindTouch
    Just know that there is so much more involved than adding your content. There are so many pieces to launching your site -- especially if you are moving from another platform. If you are not a person who typically works in the "website" realm, do your homework, ask your web people, engineers, etc., because there's a lot to do that you won't know about until you are unexpectedly smacked in the face with it. Learn from my mistakes! We are very happy now, but it was a long road getting to launch day for us
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    Alternatives Considered
    Elastic
    As far as we are concerned, Elasticsearch is the gold standard and we have barely evaluated any alternatives. You could consider it an alternative to a relational or NoSQL database, so in cases where those suffice, you don't need Elasticsearch. But if you want powerful text-based search capabilities across large data sets, Elasticsearch is the way to go.
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    MindTouch
    I will be brief. DealerTeam is built upon Salesforce and we try to support native apps. We used Desk.com first for basic Help Ticket management. The product did not satisfy how our customers were looking for information. We upgraded to Service Cloud with Knowledge Base and spent one year writing content and developing our support agency. Again, our customers were upset about submitting help tickets and waiting for answers. They wanted access to self-help while working with a customer. Today we continue to use Service Cloud with MindTouch integration and have found complete success. There is simply no other solution I know of that is a flexible and easy to use as MindTouch when it come to providing customer success and product support
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    Scalability
    Elastic
    No answers on this topic
    MindTouch
    We tried to migrate to MindTouch for 5 months and failed, remained with Zendesk
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    Return on Investment
    Elastic
    • We have had great luck with implementing Elasticsearch for our search and analytics use cases.
    • While the operational burden is not minimal, operating a cluster of servers, using a custom query language, writing Elasticsearch-specific bulk insert code, the performance and the relative operational ease of Elasticsearch are unparalleled.
    • We've easily saved hundreds of thousands of dollars implementing Elasticsearch vs. RDBMS vs. other no-SQL solutions for our specific set of problems.
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    MindTouch
    • Our operational efficiently has improved significantly. Prior to Mindtouch, we managing duplicate content in two separate authoring solutions. Delivering content predictably and consistently was difficult and stressful for writers. In Mindtouch, we were able to optimize our content (remove redundancies) giving us more time to test, review, and improve content quality.
    • Traffic to our knowledge center is increasing monthly.
    • Internally, SMEs and customer-facing teams are recognizing the value Mindtouch brings through self-service knowledge. These SMEs want to contribute more to content, either as contributing writers or collaborators with tech writers.
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