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    ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price

    Epicor Kinetic

    Score8 out of 10
    N/AEpicor Kinetic is a customizable, scalable, product-centric cloud ERP designed specifically for manufacturers.N/A

    Epicor Prophet 21

    Score7.9 out of 10
    N/AEpicor Prophet 21 is an ERP for distributors, allowing companies to manage their supply chain with one ERP, with industry-specific functionality, cloud-based applications to modernize operations, connected ecosystems to ensure visibility across the organization and AI-infused solutions to drive efficiencies.N/A
    Pricing
    Epicor KineticEpicor Prophet 21
    Editions & Modules
    No answers on this topic
    No answers on this topic
    Offerings
    Pricing Offerings
    Epicor KineticEpicor Prophet 21
    Free Trial
    NoNo
    Free/Freemium Version
    NoNo
    Premium Consulting/Integration Services
    YesNo
    Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
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    Community Pulse
    Epicor KineticEpicor Prophet 21
    Considered Both Products
    Epicor Software
    Chose Epicor Kinetic
    P21 cannot support MFG, so we went with Epicor Kinetic.
    Incentivized
    Epicor Software
    No answer on this topic
    Key User Insights
    Would buy again
    92%
    Would buy again
    169 Answers
    91%
    Would buy again
    29 Answers
    Delivers good value for the price
    90%
    Delivers good value for the price
    126 Answers
    81%
    Delivers good value for the price
    22 Answers
    Happy with the feature set
    88%
    Happy with the feature set
    162 Answers
    88%
    Happy with the feature set
    28 Answers
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    77%
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    67 Answers
    65%
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    11 Answers
    Implementation went as expected
    70%
    Implementation went as expected
    93 Answers
    68%
    Implementation went as expected
    17 Answers
    Features
    Epicor KineticEpicor Prophet 21
    Payroll Management
    Comparison of Payroll Management features of Epicor Kinetic and Epicor Prophet 21
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.9
    52 Ratings
    5% above category average
    Epicor Prophet 21
    6.6
    4 Ratings
    13% below category average
    Pay calculation8.250 Ratings8.04 Ratings
    Benefit plan administration8.129 Ratings6.72 Ratings
    Direct deposit files7.537 Ratings5.93 Ratings
    Customization
    Comparison of Customization features of Epicor Kinetic and Epicor Prophet 21
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.0
    151 Ratings
    6% above category average
    Epicor Prophet 21
    7.0
    40 Ratings
    7% below category average
    API for custom integration8.3145 Ratings7.040 Ratings
    Plug-ins7.7120 Ratings7.034 Ratings
    Security
    Comparison of Security features of Epicor Kinetic and Epicor Prophet 21
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.4
    177 Ratings
    0% above category average
    Epicor Prophet 21
    7.5
    51 Ratings
    11% below category average
    Single sign-on capability8.8149 Ratings7.541 Ratings
    Role-based user permissions8.1174 Ratings7.550 Ratings
    Reporting & Analytics
    Comparison of Reporting & Analytics features of Epicor Kinetic and Epicor Prophet 21
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.6
    186 Ratings
    1% above category average
    Epicor Prophet 21
    6.0
    54 Ratings
    22% below category average
    Dashboards7.2178 Ratings5.241 Ratings
    Standard reports7.4183 Ratings5.454 Ratings
    Custom reports8.1174 Ratings7.448 Ratings
    General Ledger and Configurable Accounting
    Comparison of General Ledger and Configurable Accounting features of Epicor Kinetic and Epicor Prophet 21
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.3
    199 Ratings
    6% below category average
    Epicor Prophet 21
    6.7
    52 Ratings
    14% below category average
    Accounts payable8.7189 Ratings7.749 Ratings
    Accounts receivable8.6184 Ratings7.447 Ratings
    Global Financial Support7.8103 Ratings8.024 Ratings
    Primary and Secondary Ledgers8.2126 Ratings7.132 Ratings
    Journals and Reconciliations7.6151 Ratings6.735 Ratings
    Configurable Accounting8.1136 Ratings6.733 Ratings
    Standardized Processes8.0159 Ratings7.439 Ratings
    Inventory Management
    Comparison of Inventory Management features of Epicor Kinetic and Epicor Prophet 21
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.4
    186 Ratings
    5% above category average
    Epicor Prophet 21
    5.7
    52 Ratings
    33% below category average
    Inventory tracking8.0185 Ratings7.352 Ratings
    Automatic reordering7.9111 Ratings6.539 Ratings
    Location management7.7145 Ratings7.748 Ratings
    Order Management
    Comparison of Order Management features of Epicor Kinetic and Epicor Prophet 21
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.3
    189 Ratings
    5% above category average
    Epicor Prophet 21
    7.6
    52 Ratings
    4% below category average
    Pricing8.4176 Ratings7.849 Ratings
    Order entry8.3187 Ratings7.451 Ratings
    Credit card processing7.688 Ratings6.541 Ratings
    Cost of goods sold8.1165 Ratings7.748 Ratings
    Order Orchestration7.8119 Ratings7.036 Ratings
    Subledger and Financial Process
    Comparison of Subledger and Financial Process features of Epicor Kinetic and Epicor Prophet 21
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.5
    161 Ratings
    12% above category average
    Epicor Prophet 21
    5.1
    40 Ratings
    39% below category average
    Billing Management7.8142 Ratings7.235 Ratings
    Cash and Asset Management7.7137 Ratings5.814 Ratings
    Travel & Expense Management7.580 Ratings4.59 Ratings
    Budgetary Control & Encumbrance Accounting7.981 Ratings6.827 Ratings
    Period Close8.2144 Ratings7.436 Ratings
    Project Financial Management
    Comparison of Project Financial Management features of Epicor Kinetic and Epicor Prophet 21
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    9.2
    19 Ratings
    19% above category average
    Epicor Prophet 21
    9.0
    8 Ratings
    17% above category average
    Budgeting and Forecasting9.015 Ratings9.06 Ratings
    Project Costing8.016 Ratings9.04 Ratings
    Cost Capture10.017 Ratings9.04 Ratings
    Capital Project Management9.011 Ratings9.03 Ratings
    Customer Contract Compliance9.09 Ratings9.08 Ratings
    Project Revenue Recognition9.012 Ratings9.03 Ratings
    Project Execution Management
    Comparison of Project Execution Management features of Epicor Kinetic and Epicor Prophet 21
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.7
    74 Ratings
    9% above category average
    Epicor Prophet 21
    2.4
    16 Ratings
    99% below category average
    Project Planning and Scheduling7.767 Ratings6.116 Ratings
    Task Insight for Project Managers7.154 Ratings7.016 Ratings
    Project Mobile Functionality7.244 Ratings5.815 Ratings
    Definable Resource Pools7.051 Ratings6.113 Ratings
    Grants Management
    Comparison of Grants Management features of Epicor Kinetic and Epicor Prophet 21
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.9
    33 Ratings
    6% above category average
    Epicor Prophet 21
    4.9
    3 Ratings
    41% below category average
    Award Lifecycle Management8.529 Ratings4.02 Ratings
    Procurement
    Comparison of Procurement features of Epicor Kinetic and Epicor Prophet 21
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.0
    138 Ratings
    12% above category average
    Epicor Prophet 21
    3.0
    32 Ratings
    81% below category average
    Bids Analyzed and Compared7.559 Ratings6.419 Ratings
    Contract Authoring7.456 Ratings9.05 Ratings
    Contract Repository7.758 Ratings6.319 Ratings
    Requisitions-to-Purchase Orders Integrated7.696 Ratings7.521 Ratings
    Supplier Management7.6130 Ratings7.130 Ratings
    Risk Management
    Comparison of Risk Management features of Epicor Kinetic and Epicor Prophet 21
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.8
    49 Ratings
    14% above category average
    Epicor Prophet 21
    1.2
    3 Ratings
    140% below category average
    Risk Repository8.139 Ratings1.23 Ratings
    Control Management7.744 Ratings1.23 Ratings
    Control Efficiency Assessments7.440 Ratings1.23 Ratings
    Issue Detection8.545 Ratings1.23 Ratings
    Remediation and Certification7.739 Ratings1.02 Ratings
    Logistics
    Comparison of Logistics features of Epicor Kinetic and Epicor Prophet 21
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.6
    103 Ratings
    8% above category average
    Epicor Prophet 21
    3.2
    30 Ratings
    74% below category average
    Transportation Planning and Optimization7.971 Ratings6.022 Ratings
    Transportation Execution Management7.965 Ratings6.421 Ratings
    Trade and Customs Management7.556 Ratings7.414 Ratings
    Fulfillment Management8.086 Ratings7.021 Ratings
    Warehouse Workforce Management7.973 Ratings6.425 Ratings
    Manufacturing
    Comparison of Manufacturing features of Epicor Kinetic and Epicor Prophet 21
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.9
    148 Ratings
    5% above category average
    Epicor Prophet 21
    1.7
    16 Ratings
    126% below category average
    Production Process Design7.9119 Ratings4.315 Ratings
    Production Management8.2139 Ratings1.02 Ratings
    Configuration Management7.6106 Ratings1.02 Ratings
    Work Execution7.6109 Ratings1.03 Ratings
    Manufacturing Costs7.7132 Ratings4.114 Ratings
    Supply Chain
    Comparison of Supply Chain features of Epicor Kinetic and Epicor Prophet 21
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.1
    134 Ratings
    10% above category average
    Epicor Prophet 21
    5.3
    34 Ratings
    32% below category average
    Forecasting7.1107 Ratings6.030 Ratings
    Inventory Planning7.7131 Ratings6.833 Ratings
    Performance Monitoring7.8104 Ratings7.328 Ratings
    Product Lifecycle Management
    Comparison of Product Lifecycle Management features of Epicor Kinetic and Epicor Prophet 21
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.9
    67 Ratings
    7% above category average
    Epicor Prophet 21
    2.8
    18 Ratings
    90% below category average
    Proposal Management8.254 Ratings7.013 Ratings
    Product Master Data Management8.063 Ratings7.217 Ratings
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    User Ratings
    Epicor KineticEpicor Prophet 21
    Likelihood to Recommend
    8.1
    (222 ratings)
    8.1
    (58 ratings)
    Likelihood to Renew
    8.8
    (2 ratings)
    8.0
    (2 ratings)
    Usability
    8.1
    (182 ratings)
    7.7
    (33 ratings)
    Availability
    -
    (0 ratings)
    8.2
    (1 ratings)
    Performance
    -
    (0 ratings)
    6.4
    (1 ratings)
    Support Rating
    7.3
    (3 ratings)
    5.3
    (32 ratings)
    In-Person Training
    -
    (0 ratings)
    8.2
    (1 ratings)
    Online Training
    -
    (0 ratings)
    7.3
    (1 ratings)
    Implementation Rating
    7.3
    (1 ratings)
    6.4
    (1 ratings)
    Configurability
    -
    (0 ratings)
    6.4
    (1 ratings)
    Ease of integration
    -
    (0 ratings)
    5.5
    (1 ratings)
    Product Scalability
    8.5
    (15 ratings)
    9.1
    (1 ratings)
    Vendor post-sale
    7.6
    (14 ratings)
    8.2
    (1 ratings)
    Vendor pre-sale
    -
    (0 ratings)
    8.2
    (1 ratings)
    User Testimonials
    Epicor KineticEpicor Prophet 21
    Likelihood to Recommend
    Epicor Software
    I think it depends on the industry and complexity of the company. In our situation, we primarily use Epicor for financials, in a relatively simple manner. I don't think that Epicor is the most intuitive or simple to set up for our situation. I think Epicor is better suited for its target industry of manufacturing, where building out the multiple layers let's Epicor's strengths come to bear.
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    Epicor Software
    Epicor seems to handle order management very well. The process flows from start to finish smoothly and is easy to learn. Regarding service orders and related jobs, the process is not intuitive and is very clunky. Locating all the details of a service order is difficult and definitely requires training from someone experienced with the system to learn how to navigate it. Ensuring everything is entered for billing and/or follow-up needs for service orders isn't always easy, from what I have seen. I don't work much with the service orders side of our operations, but what I have seen has given me the solid impression that there are areas for improvement.
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    Pros
    Epicor Software
    • MRP Processing, PO Suggestion processing and maintaining Inventory/Accounting cost consistency.
    • Freighting with speed and precision allows us to ship on time with over 10 shipping stations they all run seamlessly.
    • Using ECM, we've streamlined our AP Invoicing process and increased our teams throughput at least 2x with more speed projected.
    • Using Co-Parts with Advanced Production, we've increased inventory accuracy and accounting for parts cost in a more transparent way.
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    Epicor Software
    • The system allows us to pretty much design it to work the way want it to work. It is a very flexible system for the most part.
    • The system doesn't let you make too many shortcuts with getting something processed. It forces you to go through the proper steps.
    • The system keeps track of everything and can be easily retrieved through history searches. Detailed reports, graphs, ....
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    Cons
    Epicor Software
    • In Application Studio, there are quite a few things that you just have to know in order to really get it to work right. Such as when you are updating a dataview you have to save them refresh and then go back to the wizard to get the added fields that you may have added from a BAQ.
    • When running MRP it has a tendency to stall or not finish on occasion. This is a problem as we do not get any PO Suggestions when this happens.
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    Epicor Software
    • Some background technologies are still a bit behind the current development technologies in the market.
    • Only started offering a Web-based front end to Prophet 21 in the past year, and it still has a number of limitations not present in the client-based program
    • When new iterations/version are released, there are often significant bugs that require opening Support Requests
    • Epicor (P21) Support is still not the most responsive or efficient
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    Likelihood to Renew
    Epicor Software
    Easy to use, reliable, known product, best product configurator, Epicor continues to offer improvements every year.
    Incentivized
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    Epicor Software
    I've used Epicor Prophet 21 for about 12 years (in various iterations). It started out as CommerceCenter by Prophet 21 then became Prophet 21 by Activant and then Prophet 21 by Epicor. So frequently, when a software company is acquired, it stops being great. That has not been the case with Epicor Prophet 21. Over the years they've been under Epicor, the product has just gotten better and better, with major extensibility enhancements and new mobile components coming online.
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    Usability
    Epicor Software
    There is always room for improvement! I've used Great Plains ERP/MS Dynamics and Epicor my entire career. both do some things really well. Both could learn from each other. The KInetic user interface is much better than the classic windows overall. Please keep adding more functionality to the core financials!!! You need the accountants to be on your side.
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    Epicor Software
    Too many tabs and hard for users to understand where to click - took a year to get comfortable entering sales orders, and I'm pretty good with technology - I can't imagine for others who aren't as comfortable. Not clear who to go to for help - limited help files, especially for process transactions.
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    Reliability and Availability
    Epicor Software
    No answers on this topic
    Epicor Software
    When hosted locally, you don't have to worry about outages unless the power goes out and the battery backups fail. It can also be hosted in the cloud which is as reliable as your internet connection. There's really no concern for outages in the software by itself. Outages are controlled by external factors.
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    Performance
    Epicor Software
    No answers on this topic
    Epicor Software
    I do feel like there are some screens and reports that could be streamlined. Prophet 21 likes to load features all at once when going into a program but a quicker load time into order entry, for example, is worth having a little latency while a non-essential tab that doesn't get used very often is opened.
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    Support Rating
    Epicor Software
    If the answer to your problem is not readily available in an answer book, your response or solution will take months, if you get one at all. Problems need to be sent to support and duplicated by them before they try to fix it. This is extremely frustrating because you have to prove to Epicor that you are having an issue. If by some miracle you get by this barrier, your problem is submitted to development for review. You can't speak to them or communicate in any way directly. This group appears to be completely unconcerned about user issues or customer service. Our experiences have been negative across the board.
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    Epicor Software
    Many times, I am asked the same questions I already put in the case. Or am given a KB to look at that I've already tried. Or other times I do not understand what the technician is asking me to do so I will ask for help repeatedly going back and forth. Contacting us and setting up a call is easiest but sometimes the scheduling takes time and the case just sits there stagnant. They have usually solved most of my cases though
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    In-Person Training
    Epicor Software
    No answers on this topic
    Epicor Software
    The on-site training was great. I give it a 9 because the trainer was a chain smoker who had to excuse herself a lot to smoke. Kind of unprofessional. She was a very good trainer though.
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    Online Training
    Epicor Software
    No answers on this topic
    Epicor Software
    I had a great time with the online training. Most of the online trainings were live which meant you had opportunity to interact with instructors. I liked trying to derail them by posting funny comments to the chat window. The only complaint I had about these is they weren't recorded for later use. Well, another complaint is that they were sometimes too short.
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    Implementation Rating
    Epicor Software
    No answers on this topic
    Epicor Software
    The overall implementation is smooth. Prophet 21 sends someone on-site for as many days as you need them to step through the initial implementation. Data conversion is the biggest trick. Make sure you get help with that portion of implementation. Also, be sure to offer plenty of training incentives to keep people coming back for more training. A little money spent up front will save you tons of headaches later.
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    Alternatives Considered
    Epicor Software
    Most of my histories with SAP directly. I didn't really have any negative experiences. The only thing I could say is that I always had to go to somebody else to solve the problem that I can solve first person now with Epicor Kinetic.
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    Epicor Software
    I have not looked at them in detail, but have received a lot of positive comments through out the industry, we're on the fence in regards to viability of cloud based solutions, but from the information we have received it seems like NetSuite has developed a good solution for the industry.
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    Scalability
    Epicor Software
    Using the word Scalability usually implies an increase of use, or adding the use of other features. Making the product put to good/proper use for small companies without the need for full-time support, whilst integrity is maintained it is an entirely different topic. In my view, the current company may have acquired a full truck with options, where initially a small pick-up may have been better suited.
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    Epicor Software
    Prophet 21 is very reliable. The database is robust and well designed. The application is also hard to break. If there's one feature I don't like, it's that they haven't accounted for the dreaded single quote. That's kind of the bane of Microsoft SQL's existence. They need to escape that character in every field that will accept it in the system. Otherwise, the system throws all kinds of errors and many times will crash.
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    Return on Investment
    Epicor Software
    • We have increased our lead time of orders by about a week.
    • We have increased our output of product by 10% with the same amount of staff.
    • We were able to leverage Kinetic to optimize our business while moving two facilities.
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    Epicor Software
    • P21 has been very good with how we handle cash collections and had a positive impact for us.
    • P21 user interface saves time and thus makes people more efficient by allowing customizations.
    • With ordering, inventory, customer information, and CRM all in one location it makes the need for other programs like goldmine become obsolete.
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    ScreenShots

    Epicor Kinetic Screenshots

    Screenshot of Production ManagementScreenshot of Role-Based Analytics and Business IntelligenceScreenshot of Planning and SchedulingScreenshot of Shipping and ReceivingScreenshot of the General LedgerScreenshot of Training and Development

    Epicor Prophet 21 Screenshots

    Screenshot of Prophet 21 Opportunity PageScreenshot of Prophet 21 Home Portal