Epicor Kinetic vs. Infor VISUAL

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Epicor Kinetic
Score 7.5 out of 10
N/A
Epicor Kinetic (the name of the former Epicor ERP) presents a wide feature breadth, customizability, and scalability, typical product-centric cloud ERP offerings. It is meant as a single, end-to-end software solution for businesses, and is available on-premise, hosted, or in the cloud as a software as a service (SaaS) solution.N/A
Infor VISUAL
Score 6.8 out of 10
N/A
Infor VISUAL is an ERP software focused on manufacturing companies with business intelligence, planning and scheduling, and pricing, quoting, and estimating capabilities, among others.N/A
Pricing
Epicor KineticInfor VISUAL
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
Epicor KineticInfor VISUAL
Free Trial
NoNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional DetailsMust contact sales team for pricing.
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Community Pulse
Epicor KineticInfor VISUAL
Top Pros
Top Cons
Features
Epicor KineticInfor VISUAL
Payroll Management
Comparison of Payroll Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.4
13 Ratings
4% above category average
Infor VISUAL
-
Ratings
Pay calculation7.713 Ratings00 Ratings
Benefit plan administration7.79 Ratings00 Ratings
Direct deposit files6.39 Ratings00 Ratings
Customization
Comparison of Customization features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.5
27 Ratings
4% above category average
Infor VISUAL
1.0
1 Ratings
151% below category average
API for custom integration9.025 Ratings1.01 Ratings
Plug-ins6.022 Ratings00 Ratings
Security
Comparison of Security features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
9.0
38 Ratings
12% above category average
Infor VISUAL
9.0
1 Ratings
12% above category average
Single sign-on capability9.031 Ratings9.01 Ratings
Role-based user permissions9.038 Ratings9.01 Ratings
Reporting & Analytics
Comparison of Reporting & Analytics features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
9.0
38 Ratings
25% above category average
Infor VISUAL
4.0
3 Ratings
54% below category average
Dashboards9.037 Ratings8.03 Ratings
Standard reports9.037 Ratings2.02 Ratings
Custom reports9.033 Ratings2.01 Ratings
General Ledger and Configurable Accounting
Comparison of General Ledger and Configurable Accounting features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.6
37 Ratings
0% above category average
Infor VISUAL
7.4
3 Ratings
3% below category average
Accounts payable9.035 Ratings9.03 Ratings
Accounts receivable9.036 Ratings9.03 Ratings
Global Financial Support9.016 Ratings10.02 Ratings
Primary and Secondary Ledgers9.017 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Journals and Reconciliations9.020 Ratings10.02 Ratings
Configurable Accounting9.018 Ratings7.02 Ratings
Standardized Processes9.019 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Inventory Management
Comparison of Inventory Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
9.4
37 Ratings
19% above category average
Infor VISUAL
8.0
4 Ratings
3% above category average
Inventory tracking9.036 Ratings6.04 Ratings
Automatic reordering9.921 Ratings7.01 Ratings
Location management9.029 Ratings10.04 Ratings
Order Management
Comparison of Order Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.9
40 Ratings
15% above category average
Infor VISUAL
9.7
4 Ratings
23% above category average
Pricing9.037 Ratings10.03 Ratings
Order entry9.040 Ratings10.03 Ratings
Credit card processing7.219 Ratings00 Ratings
Cost of goods sold9.039 Ratings10.04 Ratings
Order Orchestration9.916 Ratings10.01 Ratings
Subledger and Financial Process
Comparison of Subledger and Financial Process features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.7
23 Ratings
16% above category average
Infor VISUAL
8.6
2 Ratings
15% above category average
Billing Management9.018 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Cash and Asset Management9.019 Ratings10.01 Ratings
Travel & Expense Management5.713 Ratings10.01 Ratings
Budgetary Control & Encumbrance Accounting8.914 Ratings10.01 Ratings
Period Close8.218 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Project Financial Management
Comparison of Project Financial Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
9.2
19 Ratings
19% above category average
Infor VISUAL
7.2
1 Ratings
6% below category average
Budgeting and Forecasting9.015 Ratings00 Ratings
Project Costing8.016 Ratings5.01 Ratings
Cost Capture10.017 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Capital Project Management9.011 Ratings00 Ratings
Customer Contract Compliance9.09 Ratings00 Ratings
Project Revenue Recognition9.012 Ratings00 Ratings
Project Execution Management
Comparison of Project Execution Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.6
14 Ratings
12% above category average
Infor VISUAL
3.0
1 Ratings
77% below category average
Project Planning and Scheduling7.612 Ratings00 Ratings
Task Insight for Project Managers5.47 Ratings00 Ratings
Project Mobile Functionality7.25 Ratings00 Ratings
Definable Resource Pools7.36 Ratings00 Ratings
Grants Management
Comparison of Grants Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.8
7 Ratings
5% above category average
Infor VISUAL
-
Ratings
Award Lifecycle Management8.03 Ratings00 Ratings
Procurement
Comparison of Procurement features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.1
14 Ratings
16% above category average
Infor VISUAL
-
Ratings
Bids Analyzed and Compared8.75 Ratings00 Ratings
Contract Authoring9.04 Ratings00 Ratings
Contract Repository7.75 Ratings00 Ratings
Requisitions-to-Purchase Orders Integrated6.08 Ratings00 Ratings
Supplier Management9.011 Ratings00 Ratings
Risk Management
Comparison of Risk Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.9
3 Ratings
21% above category average
Infor VISUAL
-
Ratings
Risk Repository8.02 Ratings00 Ratings
Control Management8.03 Ratings00 Ratings
Control Efficiency Assessments8.02 Ratings00 Ratings
Issue Detection8.02 Ratings00 Ratings
Remediation and Certification8.02 Ratings00 Ratings
Logistics
Comparison of Logistics features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.3
11 Ratings
8% above category average
Infor VISUAL
-
Ratings
Transportation Planning and Optimization7.75 Ratings00 Ratings
Transportation Execution Management7.04 Ratings00 Ratings
Trade and Customs Management7.04 Ratings00 Ratings
Fulfillment Management5.18 Ratings00 Ratings
Warehouse Workforce Management7.76 Ratings00 Ratings
Manufacturing
Comparison of Manufacturing features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.6
21 Ratings
16% above category average
Infor VISUAL
3.2
2 Ratings
79% below category average
Production Process Design9.016 Ratings2.02 Ratings
Production Management9.020 Ratings5.01 Ratings
Configuration Management9.014 Ratings5.01 Ratings
Work Execution9.016 Ratings2.01 Ratings
Manufacturing Costs9.020 Ratings2.02 Ratings
Supply Chain
Comparison of Supply Chain features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
9.2
22 Ratings
27% above category average
Infor VISUAL
2.0
1 Ratings
111% below category average
Forecasting9.018 Ratings00 Ratings
Inventory Planning9.021 Ratings2.01 Ratings
Performance Monitoring9.016 Ratings00 Ratings
Product Lifecycle Management
Comparison of Product Lifecycle Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.6
7 Ratings
7% above category average
Infor VISUAL
2.0
1 Ratings
112% below category average
Proposal Management7.44 Ratings00 Ratings
Product Master Data Management7.05 Ratings2.01 Ratings
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Infor VISUAL
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Score 6.8 out of 10
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User Ratings
Epicor KineticInfor VISUAL
Likelihood to Recommend
8.8
(40 ratings)
10.0
(5 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
-
(0 ratings)
8.0
(2 ratings)
Usability
9.0
(1 ratings)
10.0
(2 ratings)
Support Rating
10.0
(2 ratings)
9.0
(2 ratings)
Implementation Rating
-
(0 ratings)
2.0
(1 ratings)
Product Scalability
8.5
(15 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Vendor post-sale
7.6
(14 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
User Testimonials
Epicor KineticInfor VISUAL
Likelihood to Recommend
Epicor Software
Epicor is an excellent system for most manufacturing customers and offers several features previously only offered on the very large (e.g. Oracle, PeopleSoft, etc) level platforms. Yet the pricing is mid-level, and the expandability through additional modules provides a great opportunity for future business growth. The architecture is easily scalable, fast, and offers great options for both on premise and hosted systems. Epicor is flexible, and large enough that regular updates and enhancements continue to be adopted to improve functionality and effectiveness. It is however, not for everyone. Competition in this sector is very good, with several mid-level systems being available at a similar price point. If you are considering adopting a new ERP system and are in the plastics space, you also owe it to yourself and your team to consider IQMS, which is becoming a de-facto standard in this segment. Also, for specific medical sectors, you will find that Epicor software validation for CFR Part 11 compliance can be quite costly-- although the software is capable of supporting this with modification. Overall, Epicor is a solid choice. Ultimately, it will be up to your team to determine what works best for your needs. You won't be disappointed with Epicor if you do the due diligence and take the time needed to properly review and demo the product. Remember though, demos are typically "best case" staged, so be sure to throw several curveballs at your vendor and bring out the unique requirements of your business.
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Infor
I struggle to identify a scenario where VISUAL is an appropriate solution. We used VISUAL because it was a legacy system and the cost/complexity of changeover seemed daunting. The user interface is poor as is the interconnectedness of the various screens and menus. This might be an acceptable piece of software for a continuous manufacturing environment with little variation of basic design, but we have had to write multiple add-on macros in order to get VISUAL to work effectively for us.
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Pros
Epicor Software
  • Epicor has the best product configurator that I have seen on the market. This was one of the main reasons we went with Epicor, and have not been disappointed at all.
  • Epicor is also one of the easiest ERP system to learn, and has many ways for users to get training. Epicor University, on-line courses, or class room settings, also user conference every year, and user support groups.
  • The Enterprise search ability in Epicor is great, can find parts, customers, suppliers, etc. so easily. And if you can't remember where a report or task that you want to do is on the menu, you can search for that also.
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Infor
  • Infor Visual has a standard way of addressing business operations: sales orders, invoicing, reporting. It is easy to train operators used to using a manual or other ERP system.
  • Material control is easy for production runs, R&D material lists and repairs. The process of receiving, issuing and returning material to inventory is facilitated by standard interfaces that are easily learned by material control operators.
  • Engineering changes to bills of material are facilitated by the "engineering Master" flexible editing capability. The version control for the BOM's can be as detailed or vague as the process designed dictates. One item of a BOM or the entire BOM can be changed quickly and approved for production that day.
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Cons
Epicor Software
  • Consultants should be very well trained to make sure program integrity is maintained during challenging implementations.
  • There should be an improvement on answering questions raised, especially upon migration issues.
  • When is Epicor aware of improper/incorrect implementation they might proactively offer improvement support?
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Infor
  • VTA has been extremely unreliable. I would not recommend it. It is not customizable at all. There is no logical way to handle shift differentials which is a huge issue with a company that runs 24/7.
  • If you do not have a schedule set up, they cannot clock in. This poses a problem for anyone that gets called in on a shift they don't normally work on.
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Likelihood to Renew
Epicor Software
No answers on this topic
Infor
Good Technical and Customer Support during and after implementation tasks. Good Project Plan and Management support for implementation and post implementation. Financial functionality could be more comprehensive particularly with Budgeting and Cash Management. Inventory Management capability was adequate but could be more comprehensive as well. "Out of the Box" functionality was adequate but requested add-ons and enhancements seemed to be a bit pricey.
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Usability
Epicor Software
It is a good service to have people update and collaborate with I also like the ease of it. It keeps the stock of materials accountable
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Infor
Because of use cases and easy implementation and the vertical and horizontal scaling.
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Support Rating
Epicor Software
If the answer to your problem is not readily available in an answer book, your response or solution will take months, if you get one at all. Problems need to be sent to support and duplicated by them before they try to fix it. This is extremely frustrating because you have to prove to Epicor that you are having an issue. If by some miracle you get by this barrier, your problem is submitted to development for review. You can't speak to them or communicate in any way directly. This group appears to be completely unconcerned about user issues or customer service. Our experiences have been negative across the board.
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Infor
As we have seen the live environment and the use cases where we implement.
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Implementation Rating
Epicor Software
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Infor
Could have used more hands-on approach. There are multiple webinars and information sessions but until you actually use the system, these are not very helpful.
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Alternatives Considered
Epicor Software
Everyone at our organization really appreciated "made 2 manage" because of all of the quick access and some of the capabilities in accounting. So far, Epicor is much more advanced but the two can stand side by side. These two programs cannot really be compared just because it's just not fair to compare an on-site server ERP system to a cloud-based one.
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Infor
We unfortunately did not evaluate any other ERP software. VISUAL was a legacy system and we determined that changing systems would be too difficult, and not cost effective. We reached out to our local VISUAL rep who knew how the software functioned, but not how to apply it more appropriately to our business model, so we continued on with what we had rather than looking elsewhere.
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Scalability
Epicor Software
The software is pretty easy to use. Things are pretty clear on how to do them and if you don't know how to do something they have instructions on how to do them or you get an error code telling you exactly what to do. I have been satisfied with my overall experience.
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Infor
No answers on this topic
Return on Investment
Epicor Software
  • The ROI can be hard to quantify. We spend more time setting up and entering information up front, but we spend less time than before trying to track project costs so that evens out. Purchasing the system and implementing it was very expensive, but the benefit is the the better information can save money on projects as we know where best to spend our time and identify potential problems earlier on a project. We believe it will have a positive impact, but I'd say it will take a few years (3-4) to be worth it.
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Infor
  • I cannot comment on business impact.
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