Cisco Business Edition 6000 (discontinued) vs. HCL Sametime

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Cisco Business Edition 6000 (discontinued)
Score 8.6 out of 10
N/A
Cisco Business Edition 6000 (BE6000) was a telephony and VoIP business phone with unified communications features from Cisco, targeted at SMBs. The product is discontinued, and superseded by functionality found in Cisco Webex Calling.N/A
HCL Sametime
Score 8.0 out of 10
N/A
HCL Sametime (formerly IBM Lotus Sametime, acquired by HCL Technologies from IBM in 2018) is an enterprise-level unified communications and VoIP platform. It includes features such as instant messaging, web conferencing, voice and video integration, telephony capabilities, and presence information.N/A
Pricing
Cisco Business Edition 6000 (discontinued)HCL Sametime
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
Cisco Business Edition 6000 (discontinued)HCL Sametime
Free Trial
NoNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional Details
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Community Pulse
Cisco Business Edition 6000 (discontinued)HCL Sametime
Features
Cisco Business Edition 6000 (discontinued)HCL Sametime
Cloud PBX
Comparison of Cloud PBX features of Product A and Product B
Cisco Business Edition 6000 (discontinued)
8.6
17 Ratings
7% above category average
HCL Sametime
8.4
7 Ratings
5% above category average
Hosted PBX8.010 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Multi-level Interactive Voice Response (IVR)9.115 Ratings9.02 Ratings
User templates8.416 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Call reports8.34 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Directory of employee names9.115 Ratings8.07 Ratings
Call Management
Comparison of Call Management features of Product A and Product B
Cisco Business Edition 6000 (discontinued)
8.8
20 Ratings
5% above category average
HCL Sametime
8.0
8 Ratings
5% below category average
Answering rules8.818 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Call recording9.115 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Call park8.818 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Call screening8.919 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Message alerts8.418 Ratings8.06 Ratings
VoIP system collaboration
Comparison of VoIP system collaboration features of Product A and Product B
Cisco Business Edition 6000 (discontinued)
8.7
19 Ratings
8% above category average
HCL Sametime
8.0
6 Ratings
0% above category average
Video conferencing9.118 Ratings8.06 Ratings
Audio conferencing8.819 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Video screen sharing8.21 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Instant messaging8.515 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Mobile apps
Comparison of Mobile apps features of Product A and Product B
Cisco Business Edition 6000 (discontinued)
7.2
14 Ratings
11% below category average
HCL Sametime
8.0
8 Ratings
0% above category average
Mobile app for iOS7.314 Ratings8.08 Ratings
Mobile app for Android7.113 Ratings8.07 Ratings
Best Alternatives
Cisco Business Edition 6000 (discontinued)HCL Sametime
Small Businesses
CloudTalk
CloudTalk
Score 7.6 out of 10
CloudTalk
CloudTalk
Score 7.6 out of 10
Medium-sized Companies
CloudTalk
CloudTalk
Score 7.6 out of 10
CloudTalk
CloudTalk
Score 7.6 out of 10
Enterprises
Cisco Unified Communications Manager (Call Manager)
Cisco Unified Communications Manager (Call Manager)
Score 9.1 out of 10
Cisco Unified Communications Manager (Call Manager)
Cisco Unified Communications Manager (Call Manager)
Score 9.1 out of 10
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User Ratings
Cisco Business Edition 6000 (discontinued)HCL Sametime
Likelihood to Recommend
8.6
(20 ratings)
7.0
(10 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
10.0
(1 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Usability
8.2
(1 ratings)
8.6
(2 ratings)
Availability
-
(0 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Performance
-
(0 ratings)
9.0
(1 ratings)
Support Rating
9.4
(18 ratings)
8.3
(4 ratings)
Ease of integration
-
(0 ratings)
9.0
(1 ratings)
Product Scalability
-
(0 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
User Testimonials
Cisco Business Edition 6000 (discontinued)HCL Sametime
Likelihood to Recommend
Discontinued Products
Cisco Business Edition 6000 (BE6000) is well suited on small and medium sites that need entry-level voice and IP telephony capabilities, together
with powerful, easy-to-use collaboration tools. However , if a single user interface or VMware servers are deal breakers for you, I suggest another call system will likely be a better fit.
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HCL Technologies
Sametime is well suited for very quick conversations, where you know the person is an active Sametime user. It also serves as an easy way to reach out to someone you may not know when looking for an answer to a quick question, as they are likely to be a Sametime user. Do not, under any circumstances, attempt to use Sametime for Audio or Video chat. The quality and reliability are horrendous.
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Pros
Discontinued Products
  • provides phone support for many models of phones and conferencing devices
  • provides full telephony support for pretty much any phone requirement including call centre options
  • 911 service dialing options and tracking
  • bundle pricing on voice, phone and server licensing
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HCL Technologies
  • Sametime's web-based interfaces are "zero load", requiring no plug-ins to be installed to join a meeting, launch a meeting, or use chat in a browser. A plugin is required only if you want to share your screen.
  • Integration with IBM Notes is very tight. Sametime's chat status can change according to your Notes calendar. You can easily see if someone who just emailed you is available to chat. Your chat History is right inside Notes as well.
  • IBM's mobile apps are top notch. We automated the apps for our users thanks to IBM's work with third party MDMs. This made it very simple for us to deploy the Sametime mobile apps -- Chat and Meetings -- and get new capabilities such as Audio & Video mobilized quickly.
  • No down time, ever. The rock solid WebSphere back-end of Sametime means the environment is always up. Period.
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Cons
Discontinued Products
  • Include tools for inter-cluster migration, currently these are provided by 3rd parties
  • Improve the software upgrade process by automating the pre-upgrade and post-upgrade checks
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HCL Technologies
  • Not convenient for a large group meeting.
  • Very basic tool for internal communication only not available for third party communication
  • Very basic and limited mobile app features.
  • High speed connection is needed to connect to Sametime
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Likelihood to Renew
Discontinued Products
Happy with Cisco Business Edition 6000 (BE6000); works great for us and costs to maintain it are well in hand. it also fits our current and future requirements going forward.
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HCL Technologies
Sametime is now an embedded experience for our users. They know it, they like it, they use it, and they expect it to be wherever they are. Because it is pretty easy to use and NEVER goes down, users know they can rely on it and won't be frustrated by it. Sametime is right up with there with Microsoft Office in terms of user adoption and appreciation.
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Usability
Discontinued Products
BE6K [is] not just a bare metal server ,it is [a] complete solution with its own management tools.
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HCL Technologies
Just about everything works the way you expect it would and it's relatively easy for users to figure out. Sametime was one of those things that we started with only a few people as a "test" and before the test period was done we discovered a few hundred people had figured out how to log in and most got it working all on their own. Many of our users want to use Sametime and do so regularly; we do not have to create policies enforcing its usage. Users find it practical to use Sametime to do things like chat, transfer files, share their screen, and so forth.
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Reliability and Availability
Discontinued Products
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HCL Technologies
Typically if Sametime is not available, it's because Windows Updates were done on the servers and they were not rebooted. However, that's not a problem with Sametime -- in fact, if you have Linux you could probably run Sametime for years without any hiccups whatsoever. We have no internal Linux expertise.
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Performance
Discontinued Products
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HCL Technologies
Generally very good. Occasionally AV or screen-sharing will stutter and every now and then I hear of it dropping out altogether, but in all cases it was easy to re-establish
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Support Rating
Discontinued Products
Overall, the product provides excellent value for money. Our employees may interact at the same time on the Cisco Business Edition 6000 without disrupting the conversation. We have a significant number of employees that perform the same thing with calls, texting, and presence, and none of them have an issue.
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HCL Technologies
I have not needed to use the Sametime support team. Our local support team was able to configure it for me.
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Alternatives Considered
Discontinued Products
Both Mitel and [Cisco Business Edition 6000 (BE6000)] allow the benefit of virtualization. If desired you could have an entirely virtual system. Cisco handles the virtualization a little better, however Mitel MiCollab is easier to integrate presence and calls. Cisco underlying architecture seems to be a little more stable, Mitel seems to be a little more user friendly. There are pros and cons and both are good solutions.
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HCL Technologies
We use Jabber globally in our company and Symphony (no relevant app in able list) in some of the teams as well. All these are instant messenger tools, but Sametime is the easiest one to be used and its chat history is easy to be searched. Sametime can be used to contact almost all internal staff as it’s included in default computer package. Symphony is used to chat with front end business while Jabber is used for call.
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Scalability
Discontinued Products
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HCL Technologies
Sametime is rock solid. It runs on WebSphere, DB2 and other related IBM technologies. This does mean the back-end is highly complex and very difficult to learn and get comfortable with, however.
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Return on Investment
Discontinued Products
  • Been easy to scale as our business has grown and from acquisitions
  • Been pretty easy to maintain the software and upgrade it over its lifetime to date
  • Software and license renewals are pretty straight forward
  • Adding newer model hardware to the system is pretty straight forward
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HCL Technologies
  • Sametime keeps many of our team members in contact throughout the day which leads to increased productivity which makes everyone happy.
  • We use the team chat room feature every day. This allows a team to stay focused on the task without any extra messages that are not on topic.
  • The split between IBM Sametime, Slack and Google Hangouts has caused some issues when team members are not checking for messages on a certain app.
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