FireMon vs. Joule

FireMon is best used in a large environment (for example, I have >100
firewalls in my environment). It's best used when trying to improve
security posture and showing changes in firewall security over time. It
might not be the best choice for smaller environments or those that aren't concerned about security management.

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Joule explained ATC findings, including root cause, business impact, recommended APIs, and examples of fixes for S/4HANA readiness checks. Joule today is a point-in-time assistant — great for one question, one generation, one explanation at a time. It is not yet capable of owning a full development flow.

• Give good real time reporting for anyone making a change to any of our firewalls
• Provides good reporting tools that are out of box
• Provide good customization tools that is specific to our needs
• Upgrades are a simple process and support does relatively well with assisting us.

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• Users can prompt Joule to create business partners in MDG.
• The change process for Business partner (Customers/Suppliers) updation is made easy, particularly for updating data such as address and communication details.
• The workflow process has been simplified by Joule agents, such as identifying the high-priority task and sharing it with the end user.
• Improved data quality to almost 30%~50% in the CR creation process, which is a significant milestone for us.

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• Some features could be added to the existing functionality which include NAT rules usage
• Rule expiration normalization from firewalls rather than entering them in rule documentation
• .csv exports of the files from the firewall pane only gives usage for 30 days by default and that should be increased

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• In SuccessFactors Joule should have more tools out of the box.
• There should be more examples on what is possible to do with Joule or Joule Studio in Successfactors, all available examples seem to focus only on Payroll or Inventory management leaving the HR behind.
• Document Grounding should be easier to implement, and should be possible to have some kind of permissions per couuntry / user group for specific documents. The implementation with Sharepoint makes it harder to complete because normally we need some extra team to join and help and until now, I always had issues implementing it. I believe that it would make it much easier if the documents could be stored and managed inside SuccessFactors.

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The shell is locked out and we can't run any general centos commands. The implementation and maintainence of the arch is very complex. Even with the right identifiers on log messages the log collection keeps failing. The warning messages on the device are ambiguous. The log messages on firemon are a bit confusing and don't show the exact issue.

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As we explore, we can learn more. As i believe, we can only learn to live and live to learn stuffs. So as well AI does the same and improve itself. By trying and prompting joule more, we can use it in better ways. I would definitely wait and use the new versions shared in SAP Teched on Joule with more LLM involved

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It save me time and I'm able to have the review - review the rule independently with using my time.

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I would rate Joule’s overall usability a 10 out of 10 because it makes interacting with SAP incredibly simple, intuitive, and fast. The conversational interface removes the complexity normally associated with navigating SAP modules, running transactions, or building reports. Even non-technical users can get meaningful insights within seconds just by asking natural language questions.

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FireMon has been relatively stable overall. However, there have been a handful of times where we had issues with the console. For example, we couldn't update which devices to include in a security assessment. The initial suggestion from support was to just reboot it. It seems like there weren't many other options available such as to restart services before going to the extreme of a complete reboot.

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as its cloud based, as of now, we see it available all the time and havent faced any issues while accessing. Not sure if this has high availability and Disaster recovery features got set up already with the default version that we are using at our organization. no issues so far.

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I'm not sure we have the largest implementation of FireMon out there but we do have a few 1000 devices being probed by FireMon. Overall, the system's performance has been rock solid. The console refreshes quickly and reports are generated within an expected timeframe.

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SAP Joule's pages load quickly and it does display the information on what we are looking for w.r.to the knowledge base or the SAP articles.

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FireMon technical support is awesome! They respond quickly to our requests and they are well trained and very knowledgeable about the tool. Some issues have to be referred to the development team, but technical support largely provides solutions for any issues that we may have.

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Usually support for Joule takes longer than normal, and the correct answer always takes a long time to get, or we just don't get it at all, and we fix ourselves.

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Implementation is fairly simple. Most issues can be resolved by referencing manuals.

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Joule implementation was easy but it has too many steps, it would be nice if part of the steps could be done automatically.

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I has worked with AlgoSec and while they are very similar product, I find the FireMon is easier to understand and get rolling with. While both require some learning, FireMon is by far the easier one. Once you have an understanding of how things are arranged and labeled you can easily import firewalls and begin to work on them to improve them

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Joule is better because it doesn't take only data available on the web, but combines that with data provided directly by the game publisher through API to us which includes every single match played = all data points from all of those matches. That means that for us Joule gives deeper insights than any online AI chat agent could do

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Firemon Is easily scalable and maintainable with any size team. Although it requires some tech debt, it is well worth the time to invest to ensure compliance is visible and reports are accurate. Although our environment is very large we do not fully utilize the scalability of the Firemon product.

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Yes as sap is used widely across organisation

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• FireMon's Compliance Reporting provided an immediate and tangible benefit
• FireMon helps identify egregious or erroneous rules quickly across multiple platforms
• FireMon took our audit process from an Excel spreadsheet into a far more advanced process with readily available context for reviewers

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• Allow us to have everyday operations smoother by automating repetitive tasks and reducing manual efforts, which saves time and improves efficiency.
• Facilitate effortless information access, since it allows us to search and receive instant responses.
• Reduces the complexity of SAP by pulling data from different modules and making it clear quickly.

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