Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
iSpring LMS
Score 9.5 out of 10
N/A
iSpring LMS is an LMS developed by iSpring Solutions. iSpring LMS automates corporate training and helps to improve employee retention through quality onboarding, on-the-job training, gamification and engagement mechanics. With iSpring LMS, training and development professionals can launch eLearning fast, without any technical skills. Also, account owners can customize or white-label the learner portal to reflect their corporate branding. iSpring LMS's features…
$16,050
per year
ProProfs Quiz Maker
Score 7.0 out of 10
N/A
ProProfs Quiz Maker is a tool used by trainers, universities, and businesses all over the world. Users can make quizzes and tests with ProProfs Quiz Maker. Users can create a quiz from scratch or use the ProProfs library having 100k+ customizable quizzes and 1,000,000+ ready to use questions. Users can create scored quizzes, personality quizzes or surveys by selecting from 15+ question types. Users can also add images, presentations and videos to quizzes. Creating quizzes…
$0
Forever free
Trakstar Learn
Score 9.0 out of 10
Enterprise companies (1,001+ employees)
Trakstar Learn (formerly Mindflash) is an online training platform. Users can create courses, add quizzes and track results. Users can upload external content and access the platform via mobile devices. It also provides user management and reporting for internal and external training and scaling purposes.
$249
Pricing
iSpring LMSProProfs Quiz MakerTrakstar Learn
Editions & Modules
Business - 300 users
$16,050.00
per year
Business - 500 users
$23,790.00
per year
Business - 1000 users
$42,930.00
per year
Enterprise
Custom Quote
Free
$ 0
Forever free
Basic
$ 9
per month (annually)
Team
$ 39
per month (annually)
Business
$ 69
per month (annually)
Enterprise
$ 199
per month (annually)
Basic
249/mo
Advanced
599/mo
500 trainees
Pro
1,199/mo
1000 trainees
Enterprise
Call for details
Unlimited
Offerings
Pricing Offerings
iSpring LMSProProfs Quiz MakerTrakstar Learn
Free Trial
YesYesYes
Free/Freemium Version
NoYesNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeOptional$9 per month (annually)No setup fee
Additional DetailsNo fees for storage or bandwidth.
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Community Pulse
iSpring LMSProProfs Quiz MakerTrakstar Learn
Considered Multiple Products
iSpring LMS
Chose iSpring LMS
iSpring Learn's UI/UX was way better than those other systems, which was a huge factor for us. We wanted our platform to be self-service so even brand new hires could quickly navigate it and find what they need, and it's definitely been that for us. Many of the other systems we …
Chose iSpring LMS
iSpring Learn had the best ratio of volume of features, price and ease of use. They were the clear choice after doing trial periods with all of the other platforms I was comparing. I had demos and trialed 15 platforms prior to making my decision.
Chose iSpring LMS
We are using iSpring with older products designed with external developers, so the content has already been created and we use it to translate/localize content for different markets. For new course design we partner with external developers and use Articulate 360 and other …
Chose iSpring LMS
We do not have an Learning Management System in our organisation as was looking at a more affordable option. iSpring is exactly what we needed to help create engaging content for our employees but where we can upload and track their progress as well. All the additional features …
Chose iSpring LMS
Lattice and Trakstar both had a larger focus on employee reviews and 360 reviews which we did not need. Lattice was also priced higher than we were willing to allocate budget for. Lattice in particular seemed very catered to a large corporate organization and we are a small/mid …
Chose iSpring LMS
I found that, for the price, the tools, and the usability, iSpring Learn had them all beat.

iSpring Learn had a higher level of adaptability; it was visually cleaners, and the users seemed to take to it well.
Chose iSpring LMS
We use Ninjio for a completely different use - cyber awareness training - iSpring is internal training on our processes
Chose iSpring LMS
iSpring learn is WAY more simple to navigate and use than the rest of the options.
And the customer service is certainly much better.
Chose iSpring LMS
iSpring is a more entry level LMS. It does not have the same level of features and benefits. For example, it does not have the same level of communication capability. It does not have the same level of reporting functionality. It does not have the same ability to build …
Chose iSpring LMS
iSpring Learn has everything you need in one place, looks great, and it's very easy to maintain. Interaction with users is organic and has a great flow. Course updates can be easily done with powerful design tools. If combined with the Suite, it's an all-in-one solution where …
Chose iSpring LMS
Having used several LMS iSpring is the best around program.
Chose iSpring LMS
iSpring probably had the least functionality of all of them. Ease of use is similar to Skyprep (Tovuti was by far the most complicated), but iSpring did not meet expectations and had constant glitches that could not be fixed by their tech team.
Chose iSpring LMS
Every platform has its own focus and strengths. We were mostly looking at automating and digitalizing our training program from instructor-led training and analytics/dashboards with detailed user performance. Trakstar has more in-depth dashboards and Paradiso is great in …
Chose iSpring LMS
iSpring is easy to use comparing to other LMS systems. ALM is more extensive if it comes to features, but it's also more focussed on big companies (+2000 users). Also social learning is better in ALM. eFront is very hard to manage, administrator portal is not very clear like …
Chose iSpring LMS
All of these have their benefits, but none really had a better LMS than iSpring Learn. They throw in off the shelf courses, but if you're needing a good learning management system you are going to make-do with these others.
Chose iSpring LMS
I reviewed a few different LMSs before deciding on iSpring Learn. I can't remember the names, but I chose iSpring Learn primarily because I liked that it was just a PowerPoint add-on, which made it easy to use, and I liked the price!
Chose iSpring LMS
iSpring Learn has a lot of power with a very cost-effective punch. Prices and capabilities can vary widely with LMSs. iSpring Learn can do everything we were looking for but at a reasonable cost. Other LMS software may have more options but we really didn't need most of them.
Chose iSpring LMS
We used Udemy for Business for a couple of years, which was fine for certain courses; however, you paid per license as opposed to iSpring Learn, where you pay a flat fee for 50, 100, 200 licenses. The fact that we can also create our own content for our bespoke service makes a …
Chose iSpring LMS
ISpring was easy to use. Hundreds of video tutorials are available. iSpring was the most cost-effective solution and also met all our requirements of what’s needed in an authoring tool.
Chose iSpring LMS
They are not user friendly, It is free and I think the paid version works much better. In the past I used Moodle, as a teacher I had problems uploading and using it let alone my students. Now iSpring has a mobile app for both Android and iPhone. It has made my job so easy and …
ProProfs Quiz Maker
Chose ProProfs Quiz Maker
ProProfs Quiz Maker is more user-friendly and more feature-packed. It perfectly suits our requirements.
Chose ProProfs Quiz Maker
ProProfs offers much more features, especially when it comes to customizability.
Chose ProProfs Quiz Maker
ProProfs Quiz Maker is a very easy-to-use tool and that is its USP. It is preferred over other tools for its super simple user interface and the no-fuss installation. You can simply get started by signing up and choosing a plan and you don’t have to be highly tech-savvy to …
Chose ProProfs Quiz Maker
ProProfs Quiz Maker is an easy-to-use online quiz software that makes it ideal to be used by anyone with any level of skills. It comes packed with some amazing self-explanatory features like the templates, question bank, automated grading, reports, and more that make the …
Chose ProProfs Quiz Maker
ProProfs Quiz Maker is a simpler assessment tool tool than other tools. With templates and question banks, it is rather easy to create a test or quiz. The tests are compatible with mobile devices so our learners can easily take them at their convenience anytime, anywhere. …
Chose ProProfs Quiz Maker

It is comparatively much easier software than other assessment tools as it comes with a library of 100+ ready-to-use assessments and a question library of 100,000+ ready-to-use questions.

The automated grading feature prevents you from grading the assessments manually and you …

Chose ProProfs Quiz Maker
ProProfs Quiz Maker, unlike other quiz software, is quite easy to use. If I wanted to delegate some of the work, I wouldn’t have to worry. Thanks to its super-simple user interface, anyone with any level of skills can use it and create wonderful quizzes or assessments. The …
Trakstar Learn
Chose Trakstar Learn
The only other training platform similar to Mindflash that I have used is RedVector. However, we use that platform entirely differently than Mindflash. RedVector has a very large available library for our users to stay current on their PDU/education credits for their PE and …
Chose Trakstar Learn
Drive was too big and just a big bucket. Lessonly was pricey.
Chose Trakstar Learn
The ease of use for both learners and administrators in Mindflash is unbeatable in my opinion. The system may not have all the fancy bells and whistles that Cornerstone or Litmos has but we didn’t need all that and honestly, it was all getting in the way.
Chose Trakstar Learn
This is an alternate software that we have looked into, right now we don't have the need for the increased flexibility that lesson.ly provides with learning from your mobile or tablet. We haven't seen a lot of those things as particularly useful for our current training …
Chose Trakstar Learn
Our organization found Mindflash's pre-sales experience to be a lot smoother than its competitors. Ultimately, we felt their software was easier to use and had more business functions than other options. They provided one on one information calls, webinars and quotes for our …
Chose Trakstar Learn
While the Saba Centra system offered the ability to deliver live classes, the program became cost prohibitive.
Chose Trakstar Learn
Our priorities are ease of use, economy and flexibility. Skillsoft was too content-heavy. It would have been good had we only been interested in ready-made content. Their content just didn't meet our needs. Cornerstone was too expensive, too complicated and would have required …
Chose Trakstar Learn
I feel like I've looked at them all. For my unique needs at Responsys, MindFlash was the right solution. Some of the key attributes that I was looking for were: Usability, Ramp time of my team to learn how to use the product, Dependability of the product, Cost, Ability to build …
Chose Trakstar Learn
I have not used other LMS's
Features
iSpring LMSProProfs Quiz MakerTrakstar Learn
Learning Management
Comparison of Learning Management features of Product A and Product B
iSpring LMS
8.5
Ratings
3% above category average
ProProfs Quiz Maker
-
Ratings
Trakstar Learn
9.3
Ratings
12% above category average
Course authoring9.00 Ratings00 Ratings10.00 Ratings
Course catalog or library9.20 Ratings00 Ratings10.00 Ratings
Player/Portal9.40 Ratings00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Learning content6.50 Ratings00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Mobile friendly8.90 Ratings00 Ratings5.00 Ratings
Progress tracking & certifications8.80 Ratings00 Ratings10.00 Ratings
Assignments9.40 Ratings00 Ratings10.00 Ratings
Compliance management7.30 Ratings00 Ratings10.00 Ratings
Learning administration10.00 Ratings00 Ratings10.00 Ratings
Learning reporting & analytics9.00 Ratings00 Ratings10.00 Ratings
Social learning8.00 Ratings00 Ratings00 Ratings
Gamification7.40 Ratings00 Ratings00 Ratings
Single Sign On (SSO) Enabled Learning8.20 Ratings00 Ratings00 Ratings
Survey Format & Appearance
Comparison of Survey Format & Appearance features of Product A and Product B
iSpring LMS
-
Ratings
ProProfs Quiz Maker
9.3
Ratings
15% above category average
Trakstar Learn
-
Ratings
Survey templates00 Ratings10.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Themes00 Ratings8.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Custom logo/branding00 Ratings10.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Survey Content
Comparison of Survey Content features of Product A and Product B
iSpring LMS
-
Ratings
ProProfs Quiz Maker
8.7
Ratings
2% above category average
Trakstar Learn
-
Ratings
Changes to live survey00 Ratings9.20 Ratings00 Ratings
Question design help00 Ratings7.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Multiple question types00 Ratings10.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Survey Logic
Comparison of Survey Logic features of Product A and Product B
iSpring LMS
-
Ratings
ProProfs Quiz Maker
10.0
Ratings
18% above category average
Trakstar Learn
-
Ratings
Survey logic flexibility00 Ratings10.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Survey Reporting & Analytics
Comparison of Survey Reporting & Analytics features of Product A and Product B
iSpring LMS
-
Ratings
ProProfs Quiz Maker
10.0
Ratings
21% above category average
Trakstar Learn
-
Ratings
Response tracking00 Ratings10.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Data export00 Ratings10.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Standard reports00 Ratings10.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Custom reports00 Ratings10.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Analytics00 Ratings10.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Survey Administration & Security
Comparison of Survey Administration & Security features of Product A and Product B
iSpring LMS
-
Ratings
ProProfs Quiz Maker
8.5
Ratings
2% below category average
Trakstar Learn
-
Ratings
Access controls00 Ratings8.50 Ratings00 Ratings
Compliance00 Ratings8.40 Ratings00 Ratings
Survey Distribution
Comparison of Survey Distribution features of Product A and Product B
iSpring LMS
-
Ratings
ProProfs Quiz Maker
9.2
Ratings
13% above category average
Trakstar Learn
-
Ratings
Vendor-offered crowdsourcing00 Ratings9.20 Ratings00 Ratings
Respondent restrictions00 Ratings9.20 Ratings00 Ratings
Best Alternatives
iSpring LMSProProfs Quiz MakerTrakstar Learn
Small Businesses
Tovuti LMS
Tovuti LMS
Score 6.9 out of 10
Square 9 Softworks
Square 9 Softworks
Score 9.3 out of 10
iSpring LMS
iSpring LMS
Score 9.5 out of 10
Medium-sized Companies
Tovuti LMS
Tovuti LMS
Score 6.9 out of 10
Qualaroo
Qualaroo
Score 7.0 out of 10
iSpring LMS
iSpring LMS
Score 9.5 out of 10
Enterprises
AITalent LMS
AITalent LMS
Score 9.3 out of 10
Verint Voice of the Customer
Verint Voice of the Customer
Score 9.2 out of 10
AITalent LMS
AITalent LMS
Score 9.3 out of 10
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User Ratings
iSpring LMSProProfs Quiz MakerTrakstar Learn
Likelihood to Recommend
9.6
(0 ratings)
7.0
(0 ratings)
10.0
(0 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
9.1
(0 ratings)
-
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10.0
(0 ratings)
Usability
6.1
(0 ratings)
8.0
(0 ratings)
9.0
(0 ratings)
Availability
9.1
(0 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
-
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Performance
9.1
(0 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
-
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Support Rating
8.7
(0 ratings)
9.7
(0 ratings)
10.0
(0 ratings)
In-Person Training
9.1
(0 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Online Training
9.1
(0 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Implementation Rating
4.5
(0 ratings)
-
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9.0
(0 ratings)
Configurability
9.1
(0 ratings)
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-
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Ease of integration
9.1
(0 ratings)
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-
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Product Scalability
9.1
(0 ratings)
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Vendor post-sale
9.1
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Vendor pre-sale
9.1
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User Testimonials
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Likelihood to Recommend
iSpring Learn supports short, engaging courses ideal for corporate training programs, especially in finance-related industries. It pairs well with bite-sized content for compliance training, product knowledge, or soft skills development. For companies that need an LMS up and running quickly, iSpring Learn offers a simple setup process and an intuitive interface that doesn't require extensive technical knowledge. If a company needs extensive customization for branding or workflows, iSpring Learn may not be as flexible as some alternatives.
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ProProfs is amazing for all the business marketing purposes I’ve mentioned above. Adding product recommendations and lead forms to the quizzes is very easy. Integration with Constant Contact makes the follow-ups easy as well. Also, the tool offers thorough and easily digestible reports to analyze and optimize our quiz marketing strategy.
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I believe Mindflash is perfect for corporate training in any industry. It's quick, efficient and provides an unprecedented platform to provide training information digitally. Especially when you do not have enough resources to provide in-person training that requires detailed attention covering a massive territory.
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Pros
  • Gamification: Available badges, certificates, and user achievements on training completion. Leadership boards available in the user profile increase competitiveness and motivation among users.
  • Analytics: Org level, departments wise, groups wise, and user-wise in-depth reports with lots of filters. The learning curve at the user level is one great functionality.
  • MS PowerPoint integration with iSpring Learn is a top feature and since most of our users are pretty comfortable with MS PowerPoint, it allows for easy content creation and quizzes.
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  • Creating assessments is very easy with ProProfs. It has lots of pre-designed assessments that we can quickly modify by adding questions from their question bank.
  • It has excellent anti-cheating features which allow us to conduct remote hiring tests.
  • The tool provides simple and useful reports with visual statistics that make it very easy to compare candidates.
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  • Mindflash is very clean and user-friendly. Very easy for learners to navigate and understand.
  • Mindflash’s reporting tool is unmatched. You can pull any type of report you could want or need.
  • Customer service is top-notch. From our Sales Executive to our CSM, all the way up to the VP, our experience has been amazing.
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Cons
  • I wish ISpring Learn could interface with my eCommerce website so that users were automatically enrolled when they purchase a course. That would require an API feed.
  • I have 516 downloadable documents for the three learning tracks. I wish iSpring Learn had an option for the user to download numerous documents at one time, instead of one at a time. After early users complained, I put a link to a Box account, for each learning track, so the user could download the documents all at one time.
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  • In my opinion, it doesn’t really need any improvements, but I’d like to see some advancements in:
  • Templates.
  • Question Types.
  • Grading.
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  • Admin: They only allow one admin account, which can be a headache. Instead of logging into my personal Mindflash I log into a shared user, that makes and assigns all the videos.
  • Agent UI: It isn't the prettiest UI and can be hard to navigate for beginners.
  • Certificates: The certificates for passing a course are just dumb. I have them all turned off and I could never see that being useful.
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Likelihood to Renew
In the past I could not encourage my students to take online training. The results and the questions were hard to be given. When I used the iSpring Suite along with iSpring Learn, my dreams came through and most of the time my students are online and take good training with my programme.
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I am extremely likely to continue using Mindflash for a few reasons. One, Mindflash has increased its capabilities dramatically during the year that I have been using it. Like any good business or service provider, Mindflash seems to have the desire to constantly improve its users experience. I know in another year, Mindflash will be better than it is today. For example, I know that Mindflash is at least exploring the possibility of adding language support to its capabilities. As someone who works in many non-English speaking countries, this would be a huge benefit to me. Additionally, I have been very impressed by Mindflash's customer service. They have always been very helpful and gracious.
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Usability
Sometimes, things just aren't intuitive enough. For example, burying the catalog in the settings area makes no sense at all. The same goes for permissions and year reviews. It was a massive oversight that really caused a lot of confusion for all of our managers. It caused distrust in the LMS simply because someone who designed and developed it did not think that an employee review should be private to them, their direct supervisor, or the supervisor above. Instead, ANY manager could read ANY employee review. I have mentioned this several times throughout these questionnaires, and as you can see, I still find it incomprehensible that a company that wants to promote its software as a multifaceted solution could be so blind to something so critical, especially in terms of privacy.
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I’d give it a solid 9 for the impeccable features that this tool offers. The features are all well-aligned with the process of creating quizzes and tests. The features have been carefully developed to help reduce human time & effort and that makes all the difference. And hence, the rating
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The interface is just so simple to understand. It's clean and efficient. We showed Mindflash off to the Safety group, who are not computer gurus and they were beyong excited to use it.
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Reliability and Availability
I have to say ALWAYS.
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Support Rating
Our account rep Katie Connor is fantastic. She is very responsive to our requests. She does not try to over sell. She has setup training sessions for us any time we asked. Finally, she is a very nice person we like working with. She also has been patient with us as we figure out our renewal
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Because it met all the requirements my organization had. we were using it to meet our overall business goals that include lead generation, growing our brand reach, recruiting the best candidates, quality employee on-boarding & training, and more. The easy to use interface and flexible customization made the tasks easy, and we accomplished the desired targets from the tool
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Any problems or questions we have had with Mindflash have been handled promptly and effectively. I normally use the online chat option but have had to correspond with them through email and phone as well. We have never had an issue languish for weeks or months with Mindflash. They either fix the problem or let you know that the software isn't capable to handle the need at that point.
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In-Person Training
We can say that most of my students attend my classes twice a week and that's not enough for someone to learn. I put some training for them to do at home and they really enjoy doing them. The kind of progress they make is really satisfying for them and they are always learning.
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Online Training
As a teacher, I used to spend a lot of time correcting my students' papers. Now with iSpring Learn, my time has been saved and everything is done automatically. All the time I can check my students' progress and I know which exams they have taken or they should take. On the whole, online training has really helped a lot of teachers
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Implementation Rating
When I talked to my colleagues or informed them to search for a programme before iSpring Learn, they were not successful in designing and implementing a programme like this. I am sure they have done a lot to implement it in the best and educational way. That was not that easy as we thought.
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If you're going to develop a short course to demo the product internally, don't bother avoiding your own topics. Mindflash rolls whatever content you create during the trial into your production environment when you decide to buy. The time taken to go from not having a system to being live with Mindflash is virtually instant. What you'll be wanting for is time to develop content and people to test it out.
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Alternatives Considered
iSpring Learn had the best ratio of volume of features, price and ease of use. They were the clear choice after doing trial periods with all of the other platforms I was comparing. I had demos and trialed 15 platforms prior to making my decision.
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ProProfs Quiz Maker is an easy-to-use online quiz software that makes it ideal to be used by anyone with any level of skills. It comes packed with some amazing self-explanatory features like the templates, question bank, automated grading, reports, and more that make the process of creating a quiz for lead generation seamless and easy.
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The only other training platform similar to Mindflash that I have used is RedVector. However, we use that platform entirely differently than Mindflash. RedVector has a very large available library for our users to stay current on their PDU/education credits for their PE and PMP licenses. It does have the option to build training within it as well, but we have not used that feature because it is more focused on providing external training for others.
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Scalability
Really perfect.
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Return on Investment
  • I feel since we have introduced iSpring to our employees we have retained more employees then before
  • Some individuals do complain when they don't receive their email through for the training (this happens frequently) making them not want to use the platform
  • Overall this has been a great addition to our resources which is helping to encourage more of a learning culture in our organisation
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  • I feel that it has allowed me to do more with my quizzes.
  • I would very much like to have more control over the certificates that are auto generated after they take the exam.
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  • Mindflash has had a positive impact on our business because it allows us to train more new users with less effort, and ensure that trainees have access to the course materials for a period of time after they have started using our software to do their daily jobs. Review of the course materials allows them to get answers to common questions without having to submit requests to our support team, thereby reducing the administrative burden on our resources.
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ScreenShots

iSpring LMS Screenshots

Screenshot of iSpring LMSScreenshot of the native mobile appScreenshot of the user portalScreenshot of development plansScreenshot of the knowledge baseScreenshot of the AI assistant

ProProfs Quiz Maker Screenshots

Screenshot of Home PageScreenshot of Create Online QuizScreenshot of Score report

Trakstar Learn Screenshots

Screenshot of Trainer home - Get key information on how a program is doing with real-time graphs on the new Trainer Home. From here, viewers can dive into the details on users, courses and series using the convenient and persistent left navigation bar.Screenshot of Personalize the view - On every grid, the settings cog can be used to select the columns to view. This will be the new view even when logging in from a different computer. To maximize the content, collapse the left navigation bar to reveal just the icons.Screenshot of Filters - Advanced filters on users, courses, series and catalogs help get to just the list of items to focus on.Change, reset or keep these filters while moving across items.Screenshot of Bulk Actions - Once the list is filtered down to just the trainees to focus on, a couple of clicks a couple of clicks are required to take actions like setting a new deadline, reminding or dropping users.Screenshot of Export - Extract the whole list or the filtered list of trainees to Excel for further analysis.Screenshot of Trainer Photo - Take a photo in Mindflash and use it as a trainer photo.