ScienceLogic SL1 vs. IBM Turbonomic

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
ScienceLogic SL1
Score 9.1 out of 10
Enterprise companies (1,001+ employees)
ScienceLogic is a system and application monitoring and performance management platform. ScienceLogic collects and aggregates data across and IT ecosystems and contextualizes it for actionable insights with the SL1 product offering.N/A
IBM Turbonomic
Score 9.0 out of 10
Enterprise companies (1,001+ employees)
IBM Turbonomic is a performance and cost optimization platform for public, private, and hybrid clouds used by cloud, infrastructure operations, and architecture to assure application performance while eliminating inefficiencies by dynamically resourcing applications through automated actions. One of the key features of IBM Turbonomic is its ability to continuously adjust application resources in real time. By monitoring resource utilization and application performance,…N/A
Pricing
ScienceLogic SL1IBM Turbonomic
Editions & Modules
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IBM® Turbonomic On-Prem
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per month IBM Turbonomic On-prem optimizes data center resources in real time, ensuring app performance at the lowest cost by aligning infrastructure supply with dynamic application demand.
IBM® Turbonomic Cloud Standard
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per month For customers with more than USD 1.6 million in annual cloud spend or 50 Managed Virtual Servers (MVS) or greater
IBM® Turbonomic Hybrid Standard
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per month Advanced hybrid cloud optimization capabilities for customers with 200 managed virtual servers (MVS) or more
Offerings
Pricing Offerings
ScienceLogic SL1IBM Turbonomic
Free Trial
NoYes
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
YesYes
Entry-level Setup FeeRequiredOptional
Additional DetailsScienceLogic SL1 offers four tiers: SL1 Advanced – Application Health, Automated Troubleshooting and Remediation Workflows SL1 Base – Infrastructure Monitoring, Topology & Event Correlation SL1 Premium – AI/ML-driven Analytics, Low-Code Automated Workflow Authoring SL1 Standard – Infrastructure Monitoring – with Agents, Business Services, Incident Automation, CMDB Synchronization, Behavioral Correlation To get pricing for each tier, please contact the vendor.Volume discounting available.
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Community Pulse
ScienceLogic SL1IBM Turbonomic
Features
ScienceLogic SL1IBM Turbonomic
AIOps Features
Comparison of AIOps Features features of Product A and Product B
ScienceLogic SL1
7.0
24 Ratings
10% below category average
IBM Turbonomic
-
Ratings
Monitoring and Alerting7.823 Ratings00 Ratings
Performance Analytics7.124 Ratings00 Ratings
Incident Management6.824 Ratings00 Ratings
Service Desk Integration6.923 Ratings00 Ratings
Root Cause Analysis7.019 Ratings00 Ratings
Capacity Planning Tool6.521 Ratings00 Ratings
Configuration and Change Management6.821 Ratings00 Ratings
Automated Remediation7.119 Ratings00 Ratings
Collaboration and Communication7.219 Ratings00 Ratings
Threat Intelligence6.718 Ratings00 Ratings
Cloud Management
Comparison of Cloud Management features of Product A and Product B
ScienceLogic SL1
-
Ratings
IBM Turbonomic
7.8
17 Ratings
12% below category average
Cloud Management Security00 Ratings7.313 Ratings
Automation and Orchestration00 Ratings8.116 Ratings
Cost Management00 Ratings7.717 Ratings
Cloud Management Performance Monitoring00 Ratings7.917 Ratings
Governance and Compliance00 Ratings7.616 Ratings
Resource Management00 Ratings8.316 Ratings
Systems Integration00 Ratings7.416 Ratings
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User Ratings
ScienceLogic SL1IBM Turbonomic
Likelihood to Recommend
8.3
(226 ratings)
9.2
(147 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
8.9
(24 ratings)
9.0
(24 ratings)
Usability
9.8
(15 ratings)
8.0
(21 ratings)
Availability
9.8
(14 ratings)
10.0
(3 ratings)
Performance
8.1
(14 ratings)
8.0
(6 ratings)
Support Rating
5.9
(20 ratings)
8.0
(25 ratings)
In-Person Training
8.3
(6 ratings)
8.2
(3 ratings)
Online Training
8.4
(7 ratings)
10.0
(3 ratings)
Implementation Rating
7.9
(97 ratings)
9.7
(18 ratings)
Configurability
10.0
(7 ratings)
10.0
(3 ratings)
Contract Terms and Pricing Model
-
(0 ratings)
9.1
(2 ratings)
Ease of integration
8.0
(15 ratings)
7.4
(5 ratings)
Product Scalability
8.0
(1 ratings)
7.3
(4 ratings)
Professional Services
-
(0 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Vendor post-sale
9.0
(7 ratings)
10.0
(3 ratings)
Vendor pre-sale
8.6
(6 ratings)
10.0
(3 ratings)
User Testimonials
ScienceLogic SL1IBM Turbonomic
Likelihood to Recommend
ScienceLogic
Appropriate if you are setting up a monitoring suite in new Infrastructure Environment. Definitely NOT suited for Migration Projects. ScienceLogic SL1 cannot cater to a lot of monitoring requirements which already would have been configured in old monitoring suite. Plus, limited support for customizations and having to go to "Feature Requests" route makes in extremely complicated.
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IBM
Measure the usage of resources across different platforms, from Kubernetes to VMs on-premises or in the cloud, to obtain current capacity metrics and plan for future scenarios. Reduce IT infrastructure costs by taking automated actions based on resource underutilization, such as shutting down VMs or changing resource definitions.
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Pros
ScienceLogic
  • Best overall coverage of montioring different technologies.
  • Easy to use in any environment
  • Customizable being able to generate your own reports, dashboards, DA's, RBA's, etc.
  • Have very good out of the box integrations with other monitoring solutions such as ServiceNow
  • Always improving and regularly releasing new versions and upgrades to the system/DA's.
  • Interactive community
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IBM
  • Presentation is nice. Its easy to understand what your looking at and the data that is being presented to you.
  • Properly identify resource utilization and recommendations for action on how VMs can be improved and resources can be better utilized.
  • It was also able to tell us the same information and analysis for cloud resources. I was not expecting that.
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Cons
ScienceLogic
  • Dashboards are quite old and are of Iron age. Need to have AP2 dashboards only instead of AP1 and consistent new design across all functionalities.
  • Reporting is not improved since Y2020 and need to revamp completely. Need to integrate Dashboards and Reporting. PowerBI Like functionality to be given OOTB. Reports should be extracted in Excel, PDF, HTML and should be heavily automated.
  • Create and Open APIs for basic and advanced monitoring data extraction.
  • Topology based Event Correlation and Suppression should be improved drastically. Need to identify critical network interfaces based on Topology and monitor them. Basic customization of Dynamic App and/or Powerpack to exclude/include certain metrics/events to be permitted OOTB instead of customizations.
  • Integration with ServiceNow to be improved and to be taken to next level. Automation Powerpack should be made available OOTB as part of base product and to be priced attractively.
  • Take product to next level where we can monitor actual impacted IT or Business Service instead of metrics and events BSM and Topology map to be auto discovered and identify the network dependencies and alternate paths automatically instead of manual creation of BSM.
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IBM
  • It would be nice if the UI included a break-down of features that are both licensed as well as un-licensed. That way, you could not only see what you have, but what you don't.
  • The right-sizing recommendations are great, but very little info is given about why the recommendation is being made. More info would not only increase understanding, but would also help drive decision-making.
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Likelihood to Renew
ScienceLogic
It is simply because of all the best possible autonomy solutions it is providing and getting better day by day. Using AI and Devops along with handy automation, The monitoring and Management of devices becomes much easier and the way it is growing in all the aspects is one the best reasons too. Evolution of the SL1 platform in the autonomy monitoring and management is quite appreciable.
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IBM
We are certainly happy with Turbonomic as a whole and have invested quite a bit of time and effort into learning the ins and outs of the product. We have our reporting setup the way we want it and have gained definite value from these features. I will say though that many products nowadays are offering more native monitoring, reporting, and alerting features which may eventually steer us away from this product
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Usability
ScienceLogic
The core functions are there.
The complexity is due to the complexity of the space.
The score is based on comfort (I no longer notice the legacy UI) and the promise that I see in the 8.12 Unified UI (a vast improvement).
It is also based on the fact that with 8.12, you can now do everything in the new UI but you still have the legacy UI as a fallback (which should now be unnecessary for new installations)
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IBM
Excellent approach to larger VM organizational management. They have an very clean integrated dashboard that allows us to see everything in our environment and what that is doing in real-time. It works on multiple hyper-visors really well and integrates capacity planning on my local site as well as my cloud locations.
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Reliability and Availability
ScienceLogic
SL is always there and online when you need to get info from it. The only times when SL was not available in our own data center, was when network links from out side of the data center was down and those links were not in our controll. Having a central database and people accessing it all over the world, may put a bit of constarin on the performance of the dashboards when reports gets generated, but that is far and few n between.
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IBM
VMTurbo has not caused any outages by not doing what we expect it to do.
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Performance
ScienceLogic
SceinceLogic SL1 architecture helps the platform to give a top-notch performance in every respect, Data collection to reporting happens very smoothly. With the new user interface pages load much faster. Individual appliances carrying the individual task ensure things are working without lag. Integration with ticketing tool(SNOW) is well managed by the ScienceLogic, no issue or much delay has been observed while interacting with an external tool.
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IBM
It allocates resources among applications by showing more on the cost breakdown by cloud service, with metrics on cloud provider information like Azure Management, Identity, Networking, Storage with costs per day, and total services costs. This then could facilitate and show the corresponding actions thereafter upon scaling.
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Support Rating
ScienceLogic
So far, it's good as part of my overall experience, except for a couple of use cases. The support team is well knowledgeable, has technical sound, and is efficient. When support escalates to engineering, the issue gets stuck and takes months to resolve.
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IBM
When I contact support I get a quick response and they are able to solve my problem quickly. I also get a sense that they want to make sure that we are getting value from the product and walk me through whatever steps are needed to accomplish my goals.
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In-Person Training
ScienceLogic
It was good, Do the online training first and understand it and you will get the most out of the in-person training that way. This also takes you to an advanced level which is very good and the training as been overhauled once again along with new product coming in such as Zebruim / Skylar, worth going through again if it a while back that you first did this.
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IBM
Alex (from VMTurbo) has worked with the product for years and helped develop the product. He was very knowledgeable and was able to provide our support team with details knowledge on how to get our deployment configured correctly as well as help with another VMTurbo POC within another customers environment.
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Online Training
ScienceLogic
There are a lot of educational materials and courses on the SL1 training site (Litmos university). However the recording quality is sometimes not very good - screen resolution is low. There is a lack of professional rather than user-oriented documents and there are mistakes in documentation and education is not well structured.
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IBM
After buying VMTurbo Operations Manager, I was invited to an online user training event. I felt this training was effective and dug just deep enough to be informative yet still keep my attention. Additionally, the webinar was free.
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Implementation Rating
ScienceLogic
As first time developers, getting to grips with powerpack development using SNMP, Powershell and Python etc, was not helped by poor and badly organised online documentation. In many cases, we had to look at existing powerpacks and try to work out what it was doing and why - not always with much success. Even after receiving expert level training, the development of some powerpacks would not have been possible without access to the SL1 support staff.
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IBM
The implementation was very simple. Just upload an OVA file and power on the VM. Once it comes up enter some networking information and you can then access the web interface. From there, just begin configuring the system for your environment by adding you license and the various virtual environments and storage through the inventory tab
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Alternatives Considered
ScienceLogic
Science logic SL1 is so user friendly and it's really easy to navigate between function. I would recommend Sciene logic SL1 to all of them who are looking for really useful monitoring tool and expecting easy way of managing it.
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IBM
As the organization had experience of years in using IBM products, we had the confidence that they will provide us with great support. And we needed a reliable solution as a financial institute to ensure continuous operations. Even though the price was very high, we made the correct decision to go ahead with IBM Turbonomic as the feedback from existing users in the region was very positive. We needed a solution which was capable of handling our automation requirements. All these were green in IBM Turbonomic.
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Scalability
ScienceLogic
Our deployment model is vastly different from product expectations. Our global / internal monitoring foot print is 8 production stacks in dual data centers with 50% collection capacity allocated to each data center with minimal numbers of collection groups. General Collection is our default collection group. Special Collection is for monitoring our ASA and other hardware that cannot be polled by a large number of IP addresses, so this collection group is usually 2 collectors). Because most of our stacks are in different physical data centers, we cannot use the provided HA solution. We have to use the DR solution (DRBD + CNAMEs). We routinely test power in our data centers (yearly). Because we have to use DR, we have a hand-touch to flip nodes and change the DNS CNAME half of the times when there is an outage (by design). When the outage is planned, we do this ahead of the outage so that we don't care that the Secondary has dropped away from the Primary. Hopefully, we'll be able to find a way to meet our constraints and improve our resiliency and reduce our hand-touch in future releases. For now, this works for us and our complexity. (I hear that the HA option is sweet. I just can't consume that.)
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IBM
It’s very scalable.
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Professional Services
ScienceLogic
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IBM
Professional services were always there to guide us in our transformation to the cloud. They understood our business model and then were able to provide guidance on what we needed from the tool.
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Return on Investment
ScienceLogic
  • We are still evolving with the tool so can't really comment on the actual RoI but the features provided does adds up the customer expectations.
  • Global manager usage gives us the holistic view of separate SL1 infrastructures
  • Power flow helps to use some pre built Autometas which helps saves lot of time and effort
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IBM
  • Application performance has been a big one. With Turbonomic keeping everything running at top performance, it can make changes when extra resources are need, quicker than somebody being notified and then making the necessary changes.
  • Turbonomic has been a great cost savings for us on multiple occasions. We use it every time we are improving servers.
  • With the planning feature we get the best performance form new hardware purchases
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ScreenShots

ScienceLogic SL1 Screenshots

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IBM Turbonomic Screenshots

Screenshot of IBM Turbonomic Action Center, where it shows the list of optimization actions across the global environment—on-prem and cloud—that should be taken to minimize cost while assuring performance.Screenshot of IBM Turbonomic Application, a view that shows the global environment across private and public infrastructure from the context of individual application components. Users can optimize one application at a time by viewing each app's pending actions. The Supply Chain at left shows all of the entities across applications and their interdependencies.Screenshot of The IBM Turbonomic Cloud Executive Dashboard, an out of the box dashboard that allow users to rapidly communicate value to executives. This view shows the cloud cost savings opportunities realized and not yet realized over any time period.Screenshot of The IBM Turbonomic On-prem Executive Dashboard, an out of the box dashboard that allow users to rapidly communicate value to executives. This view shows the savings opportunities realized and not yet realized over any time period.Screenshot of an IBM Turbonomic Cloud view, where the public cloud environment(s) and all of the pending actions required to bring them into an efficient, performant state. The Supply Chain at left shows all of the entities in the public cloud(s) and their interdependencies.Screenshot of The IBM Turbonomic On-Prem view that shows the user's private data center environment(s) and all of the pending actions required to bring them into an efficient, performant state. The Supply Chain at left shows all of the entities in data center(s) and the interdependencies between them.