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    ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price

    PiiQ by Cornerstone (discontinued)

    Score8.7 out of 10
    N/ACornerstone’s PiiQ was an SMB offering that included core learning management and performance management systems, based on Sonar6 which was acquired by Cornerstone in 2012, and ultimately discontinued in 2022.

    $8

    per user per month

    Saba Cloud (legacy)

    Score8.4 out of 10
    Enterprise companies (1,001+ employees)
    Saba Cloud was a talent management suite that included performance management, succession planning, learning management, planning, and recruiting.N/A
    Pricing
    PiiQ by Cornerstone (discontinued)Saba Cloud (legacy)
    Editions & Modules
    PiiQ Performance
    $8.00
    per user per month
    PiiQ Learning + Content
    $8.00
    per user per month
    PiiQ Learning + Content & Performance
    $15.00
    per user per month
    No answers on this topic
    Offerings
    Pricing Offerings
    PiiQ by Cornerstone (discontinued)Saba Cloud (legacy)
    Free Trial
    YesNo
    Free/Freemium Version
    NoNo
    Premium Consulting/Integration Services
    YesNo
    Entry-level Setup Fee$1,000 per installationNo setup fee
    Additional Details
    More Pricing Information
    Community Pulse
    PiiQ by Cornerstone (discontinued)Saba Cloud (legacy)
    Considered Both Products
    Discontinued Products
    No answer on this topic
    Discontinued Products
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    Key User Insights
    Would buy again
    No answers on this topic
    88%
    Would buy again
    21 Answers
    Delivers good value for the price
    No answers on this topic
    100%
    Delivers good value for the price
    22 Answers
    Happy with the feature set
    No answers on this topic
    96%
    Happy with the feature set
    23 Answers
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    No answers on this topic
    100%
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    15 Answers
    Implementation went as expected
    No answers on this topic
    89%
    Implementation went as expected
    17 Answers
    Features
    PiiQ by Cornerstone (discontinued)Saba Cloud (legacy)
    Learning Management
    Comparison of Learning Management features of PiiQ by Cornerstone (discontinued) and Saba Cloud (legacy)
    Feature
    PiiQ by Cornerstone (discontinued)
    6.6
    11 Ratings
    22% below category average
    Saba Cloud (legacy)
    8.9
    31 Ratings
    24% above category average
    Course authoring6.011 Ratings9.024 Ratings
    Course catalog or library6.811 Ratings9.030 Ratings
    Player/Portal6.810 Ratings8.628 Ratings
    Learning content6.611 Ratings9.029 Ratings
    Mobile friendly7.98 Ratings8.025 Ratings
    Progress tracking & certifications6.210 Ratings9.630 Ratings
    Assignments6.711 Ratings9.629 Ratings
    Compliance management5.89 Ratings9.030 Ratings
    Learning administration6.611 Ratings8.830 Ratings
    Learning reporting & analytics6.911 Ratings8.830 Ratings
    Social learning00 Ratings8.021 Ratings
    Onboarding
    Comparison of Onboarding features of PiiQ by Cornerstone (discontinued) and Saba Cloud (legacy)
    Feature
    PiiQ by Cornerstone (discontinued)
    -
    Ratings
    Saba Cloud (legacy)
    7.9
    24 Ratings
    9% above category average
    New hire portal00 Ratings7.511 Ratings
    Manager tracking tools00 Ratings8.019 Ratings
    Compliance tracking and reporting00 Ratings8.223 Ratings
    Performance and Goals
    Comparison of Performance and Goals features of PiiQ by Cornerstone (discontinued) and Saba Cloud (legacy)
    Feature
    PiiQ by Cornerstone (discontinued)
    -
    Ratings
    Saba Cloud (legacy)
    7.7
    26 Ratings
    5% above category average
    Corporate goal setting00 Ratings8.224 Ratings
    Subordinate goal setting00 Ratings7.025 Ratings
    Individual goal setting00 Ratings8.026 Ratings
    Line-of sight-visibility00 Ratings8.525 Ratings
    Performance tracking00 Ratings7.025 Ratings
    Performance Management
    Comparison of Performance Management features of PiiQ by Cornerstone (discontinued) and Saba Cloud (legacy)
    Feature
    PiiQ by Cornerstone (discontinued)
    -
    Ratings
    Saba Cloud (legacy)
    7.2
    28 Ratings
    5% above category average
    Performance plans00 Ratings8.022 Ratings
    Plan weighting00 Ratings6.514 Ratings
    Manager note taking00 Ratings7.016 Ratings
    Performance improvement plans00 Ratings7.218 Ratings
    Review status tracking00 Ratings7.919 Ratings
    Rater nomination workflow00 Ratings7.415 Ratings
    Review reminders00 Ratings8.018 Ratings
    Workflow restrictions00 Ratings6.414 Ratings
    Multiple review frequency00 Ratings7.016 Ratings
    Reporting00 Ratings7.027 Ratings
    Succession Planning
    Comparison of Succession Planning features of PiiQ by Cornerstone (discontinued) and Saba Cloud (legacy)
    Feature
    PiiQ by Cornerstone (discontinued)
    -
    Ratings
    Saba Cloud (legacy)
    7.5
    14 Ratings
    10% above category average
    Create succession plans/pools00 Ratings8.013 Ratings
    Candidate ranking00 Ratings7.312 Ratings
    Candidate search00 Ratings7.412 Ratings
    Candidate development00 Ratings7.313 Ratings
    Recruiting / ATS
    Comparison of Recruiting / ATS features of PiiQ by Cornerstone (discontinued) and Saba Cloud (legacy)
    Feature
    PiiQ by Cornerstone (discontinued)
    -
    Ratings
    Saba Cloud (legacy)
    8.6
    8 Ratings
    19% above category average
    Job Requisition Management00 Ratings7.75 Ratings
    Company Website Posting00 Ratings8.35 Ratings
    Publish to Social Media00 Ratings8.54 Ratings
    Job Search Site Posting00 Ratings7.04 Ratings
    Customized Application Form00 Ratings8.34 Ratings
    Resume Management00 Ratings7.64 Ratings
    Duplicate Candidate Prevention00 Ratings9.15 Ratings
    Candidate Search00 Ratings8.55 Ratings
    Applicant Tracking00 Ratings9.25 Ratings
    Collaboration00 Ratings9.15 Ratings
    Email Templates00 Ratings9.26 Ratings
    User Permissions00 Ratings9.15 Ratings
    Notifications and Alerts00 Ratings9.17 Ratings
    Reporting00 Ratings9.28 Ratings
    Best Alternatives
    PiiQ by Cornerstone (discontinued)Saba Cloud (legacy)
    Small Businesses
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    Score6.7 out of 10
    No answers on this topic
    Medium-sized Companies
    iSpring LMS
    Score9.6 out of 10
    SumTotal (legacy)
    Score7.9 out of 10
    Enterprises
    Bridge LMS, Skills & Performance Management
    Score7.4 out of 10
    Cornerstone Galaxy
    Score8.1 out of 10
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    User Ratings
    PiiQ by Cornerstone (discontinued)Saba Cloud (legacy)
    Likelihood to Recommend
    8.6
    (40 ratings)
    9.0
    (50 ratings)
    Likelihood to Renew
    3.0
    (2 ratings)
    4.5
    (5 ratings)
    Usability
    8.5
    (37 ratings)
    7.8
    (11 ratings)
    Availability
    10.0
    (1 ratings)
    -
    (0 ratings)
    Performance
    7.0
    (1 ratings)
    -
    (0 ratings)
    Support Rating
    9.2
    (36 ratings)
    8.3
    (16 ratings)
    Online Training
    9.0
    (1 ratings)
    -
    (0 ratings)
    Implementation Rating
    9.0
    (2 ratings)
    4.5
    (2 ratings)
    Configurability
    6.5
    (9 ratings)
    -
    (0 ratings)
    User Testimonials
    PiiQ by Cornerstone (discontinued)Saba Cloud (legacy)
    Likelihood to Recommend
    Discontinued Products
    Well suited for:
    • A busy environment where you want learners to be self-sufficient and to be able to access learning solutions at a time that suits them.
    • For anyone who wants to access learning using different platforms such as iPad, mobile, PC, etc
    • Anyone who needs a more in-depth learning solution rather than an overview of key learning points.
    Incentivized
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    Our organization uses Saba Cloud primarily to manage all types of learning systems or staff training empirically. In addition, it provides us with a quick test-based follow-up to the trainees. We use Saba Cloud to train our clientele in a professional manner with respect to our worldwide online service. With this tool we are able to enhance the customer experience with the organization. Similarly, our organization uses Saba Cloud to monitor the performance and effectiveness of our employees and customers after having access to all the information provided by the application to subsequently make learning and development reports.
    Incentivized
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    Pros
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    • Enables employees to draft work goals and collaborate with their supervisors on a final version - improves mutual understanding right up front.
    • Combines performance goal ratings with competency ratings and provides a blended score. Simplifies the goal weighting so you don't have to do any calculations.
    • 9-box matrix provides useful definitions and descriptions so managers can prepare development notes or plans for individual employees.
    Incentivized
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    Discontinued Products
    • Skills Management - Saba has allowed us to set specific expectations for employees based upon their role, and this has clarified the skill requirements for employees.
    • Goal Management - With Saba, managers can easily create goals aligned up to senior leadership, and then work with their direct reports to create supporting goals.
    • Learning Management - Using Saba's built-in Smart Lists, assigning compliance training is a simple process that used to be a challenge in our former LMS.
    Incentivized
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    Cons
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    • Would be good to have have a virtual "top level" (eg board) user built in to allow senior execs without a direct manager to be able to be set up with KPIs instead of having to create a dummy user
    • Reports have difficulty downloading if pop ups disabled or in some browser environments
    • When competencies are updated while a cycle is open, any changes don't effect that open cycle but only future ones. Would be nice to be able to have the option to apply changes to existing "open" cycles
    Incentivized
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    Discontinued Products
    • Saba continues to improve their reporting and analytics. While it is much improved over previous versions, it can be improved.
    • Release Notes for system updates need to be delivered to admins farther in advance of the update in order to prepare properly.
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    Likelihood to Renew
    Discontinued Products
    It's not that CSB isn't a decent performance management system, but we have decided to go with just one vendor (Workday) for an HRIS/performance management/payroll system so we can directly relate pay to performance. We are more interested in having just one system that "talks" to the other pieces instead of having to work with several vendors. It reduces the hassle of having to communicate with different support teams, having different contracts, and so on.
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    Typically customers that acquire a Saba solution rarely move away. There are reasons and "legends" behind this. The investment is significant. Time and money are required to make the engine go smoothly. But once it runs at full capacity, it doesn't stop! Professional Services are extremely competent and able to close implementation gaps quickly.
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    Usability
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    There are specific things within the goals and competencies that are user-friendly. For example, the rating slider isn't great in my opinion. You can slide in between ratings which can create some odd scoring (if you use scoring). It seems a better solution would be a drop down where you select your rating. There are also some glitches in the system and have been told Cornerstone is aware of them but are focused on delivering new features. There are workarounds, but that doesn't seem to be a great answer.
    Incentivized
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    As someone who creates classes and is also a learning administrator in the system, I have run into some issues with the system's capabilities for my needs. I am not a fan of having to use Adobe Captivate to download a PowerPoint presentation into the system, as my training sessions are much more than a glorified PowerPoint. Our organization has yet to turn on Saba Meetings, which may help with these limitations.
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    Reliability and Availability
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    So far 100%.
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    Performance
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    The saving process slows it down. It doesn’t auto save. If you leave a page, it will sometimes warn you, but not always. When you hit the save button, a window pops up that says creating/saving packets. It feels very archaic.
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    No answers on this topic
    Support Rating
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    My assistant could better address this issue. My perception is that there is not immediate assistance, and that there can be a wait for help. That is not a negative, just a perception. I have not used support in two years.
    Incentivized
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    For the times that we have used the support provided by Saba, it has been a very pleasurable experience for our department. Part of our package with Saba includes a specified number of hours of "training" time with Saba. During these meetings, we have shared our desires of the product and the support personnel have either shown us how to accomplish our task or they have taken our requests to their developers to look at future enhancements. Overall, very pleased with the support.
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    Online Training
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    We bought training provided by 3rd party – it was fabulous.
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    No answers on this topic
    Implementation Rating
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    I think we could have done a better job of rolling out the tool to our managers. We were under a tight timeline. In the training, we showed them everything and said go do it by this date. Looking back, I would have done it in pieces: for example, 2 weeks to write goals, 2 weeks to get sign-off from direct reports. I just let them go at it. Since then we’ve moved to agile development environment and are applying the technique to everything. In future would only do through change sprint. It is a big change I didn’t take it seriously enough.

    I had a team of 3 project managing. You need a champion from every department to make sure you’re getting it right and to make sure what’s happening is communicated. It’s not something you can do without input from department heads
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    Was not involved with integration.
    Incentivized
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    Alternatives Considered
    Discontinued Products
    Lesson.ly has been great to work with but it is a very clear and simple, user-friendly system that anyone can pick up with very little training as it is self-explanatory. It also has a great mobile interface and lots of different features that are easy to add for the admin but really impactful for the user.
    Incentivized
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    We had extensive reviews with a plan of what we needed and must have out of the system, including custom learning paths and tracking inside our HRIS system to grant permissions and positions based on completed learning certifications and courses. We weighed each option and chose based on the one that met the most of the must-haves.
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    Return on Investment
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    • It's tool and it's only as good as the person wielding it. The investment in PiiQ was accompanied by a quarterly cadence and manager feedback training. We feel like our employees are given regular feedback and bonuses are tied to objective accomplishment.
    Incentivized
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    Discontinued Products
    • This may seem small but with 90% of our workforce not at our main facility just the fact that since July 1, 2021, we have had over 18,956 compliance-related training completed by our staff. Do the math the ROI is wonderful.
    Incentivized
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    ScreenShots

    PiiQ by Cornerstone (discontinued) Screenshots

    Screenshot of PiiQ Performance Employee ReviewScreenshot of PiiQ Learning on DevicesScreenshot of PiiQ Manager/Employee Check-insScreenshot of PiiQ 9-box Talent MatrixScreenshot of PiiQ Learning Publish New ContentScreenshot of PiiQ Learning Searchable Library & Self-registration

    Saba Cloud (legacy) Screenshots

    Screenshot of The Intelligent Mentor in Action - RecommendationsScreenshot of Learning PlanScreenshot of Informal LearningScreenshot of Performance Check-insScreenshot of Succession Talent DashboardScreenshot of Organizational Planning