EPAY Systems vs. Saba Cloud (legacy)

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
EPAY Systems
Score 9.0 out of 10
Enterprise companies (1,001+ employees)
EPAY Systems, a PrismHR Company, is a SaaS provider of human capital management technology and services designed to help medium to large businesses better manage their workforce. Their solutions include recruiting and applicant tracking, new hire onboarding, benefits administration, HR management, time tracking, workforce management, payroll processing, tax management, performance management, ACA reporting, and COBRA administration.N/A
Saba Cloud (legacy)
Score 8.5 out of 10
Enterprise companies (1,001+ employees)
Saba Cloud was a talent management suite that included performance management, succession planning, learning management, planning, and recruiting.N/A
Pricing
EPAY SystemsSaba Cloud (legacy)
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
EPAY SystemsSaba Cloud (legacy)
Free Trial
NoNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
YesNo
Entry-level Setup FeeRequiredNo setup fee
Additional Details
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EPAY SystemsSaba Cloud (legacy)
Features
EPAY SystemsSaba Cloud (legacy)
Human Resource Management
Comparison of Human Resource Management features of Product A and Product B
EPAY Systems
2.2
2 Ratings
115% below category average
Saba Cloud (legacy)
-
Ratings
Employee demographic data2.32 Ratings00 Ratings
Employment history2.32 Ratings00 Ratings
Job profiles and administration2.12 Ratings00 Ratings
Organization and location management2.32 Ratings00 Ratings
Compliance data (COBRA, OSHA, etc.)2.12 Ratings00 Ratings
Payroll Management
Comparison of Payroll Management features of Product A and Product B
EPAY Systems
2.9
5 Ratings
95% below category average
Saba Cloud (legacy)
-
Ratings
Pay calculation6.55 Ratings00 Ratings
Support for external payroll vendors2.42 Ratings00 Ratings
Off-cycle/On-Demand payment2.32 Ratings00 Ratings
Benefit plan administration1.01 Ratings00 Ratings
Direct deposit files2.32 Ratings00 Ratings
Leave and Attendance Management
Comparison of Leave and Attendance Management features of Product A and Product B
EPAY Systems
2.5
3 Ratings
106% below category average
Saba Cloud (legacy)
-
Ratings
Approval workflow2.32 Ratings00 Ratings
Balance details3.23 Ratings00 Ratings
Annual carry-forward and encashment2.12 Ratings00 Ratings
Employee Self Service
Comparison of Employee Self Service features of Product A and Product B
EPAY Systems
2.9
3 Ratings
96% below category average
Saba Cloud (legacy)
-
Ratings
View and generate pay and benefit information3.23 Ratings00 Ratings
Update personal information3.33 Ratings00 Ratings
View company policy documentation2.32 Ratings00 Ratings
HR Reporting
Comparison of HR Reporting features of Product A and Product B
EPAY Systems
3.0
3 Ratings
86% below category average
Saba Cloud (legacy)
-
Ratings
Report builder3.13 Ratings00 Ratings
Pre-built reports2.93 Ratings00 Ratings
Ability to combine HR data with external data3.13 Ratings00 Ratings
Onboarding
Comparison of Onboarding features of Product A and Product B
EPAY Systems
2.1
2 Ratings
117% below category average
Saba Cloud (legacy)
7.9
24 Ratings
9% above category average
New hire portal2.12 Ratings7.511 Ratings
Manager tracking tools2.12 Ratings8.019 Ratings
Compliance tracking and reporting00 Ratings8.223 Ratings
Performance and Goals
Comparison of Performance and Goals features of Product A and Product B
EPAY Systems
2.2
2 Ratings
114% below category average
Saba Cloud (legacy)
7.7
26 Ratings
5% above category average
Individual goal setting2.12 Ratings8.026 Ratings
Performance tracking2.32 Ratings7.025 Ratings
Corporate goal setting00 Ratings8.224 Ratings
Subordinate goal setting00 Ratings7.025 Ratings
Line-of sight-visibility00 Ratings8.525 Ratings
Performance Management
Comparison of Performance Management features of Product A and Product B
EPAY Systems
1.9
2 Ratings
122% below category average
Saba Cloud (legacy)
7.2
28 Ratings
5% above category average
Performance plans2.42 Ratings8.022 Ratings
Performance improvement plans1.01 Ratings7.218 Ratings
Review status tracking2.42 Ratings7.919 Ratings
Review reminders2.42 Ratings8.018 Ratings
Multiple review frequency1.01 Ratings7.016 Ratings
Plan weighting00 Ratings6.514 Ratings
Manager note taking00 Ratings7.016 Ratings
Rater nomination workflow00 Ratings7.415 Ratings
Workflow restrictions00 Ratings6.414 Ratings
Reporting00 Ratings7.027 Ratings
Recruiting / ATS
Comparison of Recruiting / ATS features of Product A and Product B
EPAY Systems
1.9
2 Ratings
121% below category average
Saba Cloud (legacy)
8.6
8 Ratings
19% above category average
Job Requisition Management2.32 Ratings7.75 Ratings
Company Website Posting2.32 Ratings8.35 Ratings
Publish to Social Media1.01 Ratings8.54 Ratings
Job Search Site Posting2.32 Ratings7.04 Ratings
Duplicate Candidate Prevention1.01 Ratings9.15 Ratings
Applicant Tracking2.32 Ratings9.25 Ratings
Notifications and Alerts2.32 Ratings9.17 Ratings
Customized Application Form00 Ratings8.34 Ratings
Resume Management00 Ratings7.64 Ratings
Candidate Search00 Ratings8.55 Ratings
Collaboration00 Ratings9.15 Ratings
Email Templates00 Ratings9.26 Ratings
User Permissions00 Ratings9.15 Ratings
Reporting00 Ratings9.28 Ratings
Succession Planning
Comparison of Succession Planning features of Product A and Product B
EPAY Systems
-
Ratings
Saba Cloud (legacy)
7.5
14 Ratings
10% above category average
Create succession plans/pools00 Ratings8.013 Ratings
Candidate ranking00 Ratings7.312 Ratings
Candidate search00 Ratings7.412 Ratings
Candidate development00 Ratings7.313 Ratings
Learning Management
Comparison of Learning Management features of Product A and Product B
EPAY Systems
-
Ratings
Saba Cloud (legacy)
8.9
31 Ratings
24% above category average
Course authoring00 Ratings9.024 Ratings
Course catalog or library00 Ratings9.030 Ratings
Player/Portal00 Ratings8.628 Ratings
Learning content00 Ratings9.029 Ratings
Mobile friendly00 Ratings8.025 Ratings
Progress tracking & certifications00 Ratings9.630 Ratings
Assignments00 Ratings9.629 Ratings
Compliance management00 Ratings9.030 Ratings
Learning administration00 Ratings8.830 Ratings
Learning reporting & analytics00 Ratings8.830 Ratings
Social learning00 Ratings8.021 Ratings
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User Ratings
EPAY SystemsSaba Cloud (legacy)
Likelihood to Recommend
6.4
(6 ratings)
9.0
(50 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
-
(0 ratings)
4.5
(5 ratings)
Usability
1.0
(1 ratings)
7.8
(11 ratings)
Support Rating
1.0
(1 ratings)
8.3
(16 ratings)
Implementation Rating
-
(0 ratings)
4.5
(2 ratings)
User Testimonials
EPAY SystemsSaba Cloud (legacy)
Likelihood to Recommend
EPAY Systems
I am able to track which of my clients have paid their invoices and which have not. The number of days that the EPAY invoice is outstanding is easily accessible. The date the original invoice was sent is displayed. The initial form to complete in order to send the EPAY is so simple a caveman can do it. Just need the client's name, email, and the amount of the invoice. The automated follow-up emails to the clients who have not paid are helpful.
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Discontinued Products
Our organization uses Saba Cloud primarily to manage all types of learning systems or staff training empirically. In addition, it provides us with a quick test-based follow-up to the trainees. We use Saba Cloud to train our clientele in a professional manner with respect to our worldwide online service. With this tool we are able to enhance the customer experience with the organization. Similarly, our organization uses Saba Cloud to monitor the performance and effectiveness of our employees and customers after having access to all the information provided by the application to subsequently make learning and development reports.
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Pros
EPAY Systems
  • EPAY team is responsive to our needs. Excellent team who understands our challenges and helps us come up with solutions.
  • System functionality is configurable so that we minimize custom programming.
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Discontinued Products
  • Skills Management - Saba has allowed us to set specific expectations for employees based upon their role, and this has clarified the skill requirements for employees.
  • Goal Management - With Saba, managers can easily create goals aligned up to senior leadership, and then work with their direct reports to create supporting goals.
  • Learning Management - Using Saba's built-in Smart Lists, assigning compliance training is a simple process that used to be a challenge in our former LMS.
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Cons
EPAY Systems
  • All-time punches are rounded to 15-minute intervals which can skew accurate break times.
  • Slow lading or occasional lags due to server overload.
  • Sync errors cause occasional overlapping punches.
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Discontinued Products
  • Saba continues to improve their reporting and analytics. While it is much improved over previous versions, it can be improved.
  • Release Notes for system updates need to be delivered to admins farther in advance of the update in order to prepare properly.
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Likelihood to Renew
EPAY Systems
No answers on this topic
Discontinued Products
Typically customers that acquire a Saba solution rarely move away. There are reasons and "legends" behind this. The investment is significant. Time and money are required to make the engine go smoothly. But once it runs at full capacity, it doesn't stop! Professional Services are extremely competent and able to close implementation gaps quickly.
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Usability
EPAY Systems
Because I can't give it a Zero, I believe EPAY Systems is the most senseless system I have ever used. I worked on systems over 25 years ago that were better. In my opinion, there is no logic to the programming; the system is unbelievably SLOW, and there and hundreds of problems every week. And major ones that they will not or can not correct. For example, we can not file or access employee records in the system as it can take longer than 10 minutes to view or load one document for one employee - IF the system allows you to get that far, which it usually doesn't.
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Discontinued Products
As someone who creates classes and is also a learning administrator in the system, I have run into some issues with the system's capabilities for my needs. I am not a fan of having to use Adobe Captivate to download a PowerPoint presentation into the system, as my training sessions are much more than a glorified PowerPoint. Our organization has yet to turn on Saba Meetings, which may help with these limitations.
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Support Rating
EPAY Systems
I feel the support is terrible. We have an outsourced support purpose who doesn't understand the EPAY Systems or our company, [removed], will only answer the first thing mentioned even if there is an entire list. Then the answer does not solve the 1st problem on the list or any other and has no idea how to help us. We have requested a replacement and were told we would get one, then told later we would not. I believe while the support person is nice, I believe they were not trained or supported on their end, and effectiveness is probably 1% or less, takes forever, and is only on the minor issues.
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Discontinued Products
For the times that we have used the support provided by Saba, it has been a very pleasurable experience for our department. Part of our package with Saba includes a specified number of hours of "training" time with Saba. During these meetings, we have shared our desires of the product and the support personnel have either shown us how to accomplish our task or they have taken our requests to their developers to look at future enhancements. Overall, very pleased with the support.
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Implementation Rating
EPAY Systems
No answers on this topic
Discontinued Products
Was not involved with integration.
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Alternatives Considered
EPAY Systems
Our main reason for switching to Blueforce is
that we found the platform to be pretty promising and interactive than other
alternatives. With other alternatives, there was one issue or another which just
used to not give us a very smooth and subtle experience. Thankfully, this tool
has solved all our problems and has been a godsend gift that does its job
quietly and lets the final results make the noise.
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Discontinued Products
We had extensive reviews with a plan of what we needed and must have out of the system, including custom learning paths and tracking inside our HRIS system to grant permissions and positions based on completed learning certifications and courses. We weighed each option and chose based on the one that met the most of the must-haves.
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Return on Investment
EPAY Systems
  • Decreased the Risk of lawsuits due to paying incorrectly
  • Allows for accurate Payroll process
  • Employees are paid correctly per the law- Employee Happiness
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Discontinued Products
  • This may seem small but with 90% of our workforce not at our main facility just the fact that since July 1, 2021, we have had over 18,956 compliance-related training completed by our staff. Do the math the ROI is wonderful.
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ScreenShots

EPAY Systems Screenshots

Screenshot of Timesheet Details

Saba Cloud (legacy) Screenshots

Screenshot of The Intelligent Mentor in Action - RecommendationsScreenshot of Learning PlanScreenshot of Informal LearningScreenshot of Performance Check-insScreenshot of Succession Talent DashboardScreenshot of Organizational Planning