Epicor Kinetic vs. SAP Business ByDesign

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Epicor Kinetic
Score 7.4 out of 10
N/A
Epicor Kinetic (the name of the former Epicor ERP) presents a wide feature breadth, customizability, and scalability, typical product-centric cloud ERP offerings. It is meant as a single, end-to-end software solution for businesses, and is available on-premise, hosted, or in the cloud as a software as a service (SaaS) solution.N/A
SAP Business ByDesign
Score 7.5 out of 10
Mid-Size Companies (51-1,000 employees)
SAP Business ByDesign is SAP's cloud ERP suite offering, launched in 2007, designed for the SMB market. The product includes a broad range of capabilities including financials, human resources, sales, procurement, customer service, and supply chain. Business ByDesign is a new platform, delivered entirely through a SaaS model, with functionality that overlaps somewhat with BusinessOne, which is also an SMB product, although not a true SaaS product.N/A
Pricing
Epicor KineticSAP Business ByDesign
Editions & Modules
No answers on this topic
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
Epicor KineticSAP Business ByDesign
Free Trial
NoYes
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeOptional
Additional DetailsMust contact sales team for pricing.SAP Business ByDesign is available for a monthly software-as-a-service (SaaS) subscription, based on a base package, user types, and number of users.
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Top Pros
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Features
Epicor KineticSAP Business ByDesign
Payroll Management
Comparison of Payroll Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.4
13 Ratings
3% above category average
SAP Business ByDesign
8.4
2 Ratings
15% above category average
Pay calculation7.713 Ratings00 Ratings
Benefit plan administration7.79 Ratings4.51 Ratings
Direct deposit files6.39 Ratings9.11 Ratings
Customization
Comparison of Customization features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
6.0
26 Ratings
19% below category average
SAP Business ByDesign
9.2
5 Ratings
24% above category average
API for custom integration6.124 Ratings9.24 Ratings
Plug-ins6.022 Ratings9.25 Ratings
Security
Comparison of Security features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.5
37 Ratings
8% below category average
SAP Business ByDesign
9.3
5 Ratings
13% above category average
Single sign-on capability8.030 Ratings9.04 Ratings
Role-based user permissions7.037 Ratings9.65 Ratings
Reporting & Analytics
Comparison of Reporting & Analytics features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.4
37 Ratings
19% above category average
SAP Business ByDesign
9.2
5 Ratings
28% above category average
Dashboards7.936 Ratings8.85 Ratings
Standard reports9.036 Ratings9.25 Ratings
Custom reports8.332 Ratings9.65 Ratings
General Ledger and Configurable Accounting
Comparison of General Ledger and Configurable Accounting features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.1
36 Ratings
7% below category average
SAP Business ByDesign
8.7
5 Ratings
13% above category average
Accounts payable7.334 Ratings9.24 Ratings
Accounts receivable7.235 Ratings9.24 Ratings
Global Financial Support9.016 Ratings9.22 Ratings
Primary and Secondary Ledgers6.316 Ratings9.22 Ratings
Journals and Reconciliations7.319 Ratings8.82 Ratings
Configurable Accounting7.917 Ratings9.22 Ratings
Standardized Processes8.018 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Inventory Management
Comparison of Inventory Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
9.9
36 Ratings
23% above category average
SAP Business ByDesign
9.1
4 Ratings
15% above category average
Inventory tracking9.935 Ratings9.24 Ratings
Automatic reordering9.921 Ratings10.03 Ratings
Location management9.928 Ratings8.03 Ratings
Order Management
Comparison of Order Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.7
39 Ratings
11% above category average
SAP Business ByDesign
8.5
4 Ratings
9% above category average
Pricing9.036 Ratings9.24 Ratings
Order entry8.039 Ratings9.24 Ratings
Credit card processing7.219 Ratings4.51 Ratings
Cost of goods sold8.938 Ratings9.24 Ratings
Order Orchestration9.916 Ratings9.22 Ratings
Subledger and Financial Process
Comparison of Subledger and Financial Process features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.8
22 Ratings
17% above category average
SAP Business ByDesign
9.2
3 Ratings
22% above category average
Billing Management9.917 Ratings8.83 Ratings
Cash and Asset Management9.918 Ratings9.22 Ratings
Travel & Expense Management5.713 Ratings10.02 Ratings
Budgetary Control & Encumbrance Accounting8.914 Ratings10.01 Ratings
Period Close8.218 Ratings9.22 Ratings
Project Financial Management
Comparison of Project Financial Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
9.2
19 Ratings
19% above category average
SAP Business ByDesign
9.2
2 Ratings
19% above category average
Budgeting and Forecasting9.015 Ratings10.01 Ratings
Project Costing8.016 Ratings9.22 Ratings
Cost Capture10.017 Ratings9.22 Ratings
Capital Project Management9.011 Ratings9.22 Ratings
Customer Contract Compliance9.09 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Project Revenue Recognition9.012 Ratings9.22 Ratings
Project Execution Management
Comparison of Project Execution Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.6
14 Ratings
11% above category average
SAP Business ByDesign
8.3
3 Ratings
19% above category average
Project Planning and Scheduling7.612 Ratings9.23 Ratings
Task Insight for Project Managers5.47 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Project Mobile Functionality7.25 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Definable Resource Pools7.36 Ratings00 Ratings
Grants Management
Comparison of Grants Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.8
7 Ratings
3% above category average
SAP Business ByDesign
10.0
1 Ratings
28% above category average
Award Lifecycle Management8.03 Ratings10.01 Ratings
Procurement
Comparison of Procurement features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.2
13 Ratings
16% above category average
SAP Business ByDesign
8.0
1 Ratings
14% above category average
Bids Analyzed and Compared8.75 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Contract Authoring9.04 Ratings00 Ratings
Contract Repository7.75 Ratings00 Ratings
Requisitions-to-Purchase Orders Integrated8.87 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Supplier Management7.910 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Risk Management
Comparison of Risk Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.9
3 Ratings
19% above category average
SAP Business ByDesign
-
Ratings
Risk Repository8.02 Ratings00 Ratings
Control Management8.03 Ratings00 Ratings
Control Efficiency Assessments8.02 Ratings00 Ratings
Issue Detection8.02 Ratings00 Ratings
Remediation and Certification8.02 Ratings00 Ratings
Logistics
Comparison of Logistics features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.3
11 Ratings
6% above category average
SAP Business ByDesign
9.2
3 Ratings
29% above category average
Transportation Planning and Optimization7.75 Ratings00 Ratings
Transportation Execution Management7.04 Ratings00 Ratings
Trade and Customs Management7.04 Ratings00 Ratings
Fulfillment Management5.18 Ratings00 Ratings
Warehouse Workforce Management7.76 Ratings9.22 Ratings
Manufacturing
Comparison of Manufacturing features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.1
20 Ratings
7% above category average
SAP Business ByDesign
9.0
3 Ratings
18% above category average
Production Process Design7.915 Ratings9.23 Ratings
Production Management7.619 Ratings9.23 Ratings
Configuration Management8.113 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Work Execution7.715 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Manufacturing Costs9.319 Ratings9.23 Ratings
Supply Chain
Comparison of Supply Chain features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
9.4
21 Ratings
26% above category average
SAP Business ByDesign
8.6
3 Ratings
17% above category average
Forecasting8.917 Ratings9.23 Ratings
Inventory Planning8.920 Ratings9.23 Ratings
Performance Monitoring9.915 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Product Lifecycle Management
Comparison of Product Lifecycle Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.6
7 Ratings
5% above category average
SAP Business ByDesign
-
Ratings
Proposal Management7.44 Ratings00 Ratings
Product Master Data Management7.05 Ratings00 Ratings
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User Ratings
Epicor KineticSAP Business ByDesign
Likelihood to Recommend
8.2
(39 ratings)
9.6
(7 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
-
(0 ratings)
9.0
(3 ratings)
Usability
9.0
(1 ratings)
8.0
(1 ratings)
Support Rating
10.0
(2 ratings)
9.0
(1 ratings)
Implementation Rating
-
(0 ratings)
8.0
(1 ratings)
Product Scalability
8.5
(15 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Vendor post-sale
7.6
(14 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
User Testimonials
Epicor KineticSAP Business ByDesign
Likelihood to Recommend
Epicor Software
Epicor is an excellent system for most manufacturing customers and offers several features previously only offered on the very large (e.g. Oracle, PeopleSoft, etc) level platforms. Yet the pricing is mid-level, and the expandability through additional modules provides a great opportunity for future business growth. The architecture is easily scalable, fast, and offers great options for both on premise and hosted systems. Epicor is flexible, and large enough that regular updates and enhancements continue to be adopted to improve functionality and effectiveness. It is however, not for everyone. Competition in this sector is very good, with several mid-level systems being available at a similar price point. If you are considering adopting a new ERP system and are in the plastics space, you also owe it to yourself and your team to consider IQMS, which is becoming a de-facto standard in this segment. Also, for specific medical sectors, you will find that Epicor software validation for CFR Part 11 compliance can be quite costly-- although the software is capable of supporting this with modification. Overall, Epicor is a solid choice. Ultimately, it will be up to your team to determine what works best for your needs. You won't be disappointed with Epicor if you do the due diligence and take the time needed to properly review and demo the product. Remember though, demos are typically "best case" staged, so be sure to throw several curveballs at your vendor and bring out the unique requirements of your business.
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SAP
Do you plan on going public at some point? If so, this may not be the best solution for you
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Pros
Epicor Software
  • Epicor has the best product configurator that I have seen on the market. This was one of the main reasons we went with Epicor, and have not been disappointed at all.
  • Epicor is also one of the easiest ERP system to learn, and has many ways for users to get training. Epicor University, on-line courses, or class room settings, also user conference every year, and user support groups.
  • The Enterprise search ability in Epicor is great, can find parts, customers, suppliers, etc. so easily. And if you can't remember where a report or task that you want to do is on the menu, you can search for that also.
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SAP
  • I like the ease of use and the implementation methodology.
  • With SAP Business ByDesign you can integrate other systems with Web Services, and data technology to get information easy and fast.
  • SAP Business ByDesign includes an Analytics Module to create new reports in regards to your needs.
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Cons
Epicor Software
  • Consultants should be very well trained to make sure program integrity is maintained during challenging implementations.
  • There should be an improvement on answering questions raised, especially upon migration issues.
  • When is Epicor aware of improper/incorrect implementation they might proactively offer improvement support?
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SAP
  • Time off request could be better. Right now, there is no option for sick time
  • It crashes often
  • Customization could be better
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Likelihood to Renew
Epicor Software
No answers on this topic
SAP
SAP BYD work centers are consistent and easy to navigate once you understand one work center. The document flow tab that is in each window allows one to see all related transactions. Document flow is important because one is able to see the flow of transactions and can therefore reverse transactions by following the document flow in reverse. It is possible to group items in each overview screen to see what items are open. The system is working as hoped.
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Usability
Epicor Software
It is a good service to have people update and collaborate with I also like the ease of it. It keeps the stock of materials accountable
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SAP
Because SAP Business ByDesign allows us to improve our work, reduce the operational steps, implement audit controls, allows us found standard reports or it allows us to create new ones if you need more than the exists are enough for your work or your needs. Overall, SAP Business ByDesign allows us to standardize our operations, enhance our work, improve our skills, work over a web environment or mobile interface.
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Support Rating
Epicor Software
If the answer to your problem is not readily available in an answer book, your response or solution will take months, if you get one at all. Problems need to be sent to support and duplicated by them before they try to fix it. This is extremely frustrating because you have to prove to Epicor that you are having an issue. If by some miracle you get by this barrier, your problem is submitted to development for review. You can't speak to them or communicate in any way directly. This group appears to be completely unconcerned about user issues or customer service. Our experiences have been negative across the board.
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SAP
The Business ByDesign support is stablished since you contract the service with SAP. SAP resolves according to the service level agreement. Currently, we continue with the service and we are using the support channels available. We are receiving the support. The SAP support gets an incident and after that, they contact us to resolve the incident, if necessary, they set the meeting to understand it or we explain the incident
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Implementation Rating
Epicor Software
No answers on this topic
SAP
I recommend implementing all workshops during the ERP selection that you need to know very well about the ERP software. It allows us to gather information to accurate the plan of the project implementation. Additionally, we must reach the high-level commitment to achieve the main goals, to define the RACI matrix and communicate to all project stakeholders.
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Alternatives Considered
Epicor Software
Everyone at our organization really appreciated "made 2 manage" because of all of the quick access and some of the capabilities in accounting. So far, Epicor is much more advanced but the two can stand side by side. These two programs cannot really be compared just because it's just not fair to compare an on-site server ERP system to a cloud-based one.
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SAP
ByDesign stacks up well against the competition. Companies that do multiple things are usually the best fit (manufacturing, distribution, and service). The more 'modules' used, the fewer competitors will be able to meet the company's needs. It is not inexpensive, but if the needs of the company have the complexity from either a global perspective and need localizations and foreign currency, or a volume perspective and need resources greater than what can be easily housed on-premise, ByDesign should be a top consideration.
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Scalability
Epicor Software
The software is pretty easy to use. Things are pretty clear on how to do them and if you don't know how to do something they have instructions on how to do them or you get an error code telling you exactly what to do. I have been satisfied with my overall experience.
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SAP
No answers on this topic
Return on Investment
Epicor Software
  • The ROI can be hard to quantify. We spend more time setting up and entering information up front, but we spend less time than before trying to track project costs so that evens out. Purchasing the system and implementing it was very expensive, but the benefit is the the better information can save money on projects as we know where best to spend our time and identify potential problems earlier on a project. We believe it will have a positive impact, but I'd say it will take a few years (3-4) to be worth it.
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SAP
  • Positive - Access to the real-time reporting allowing for faster decision making especially when fixed price projects are heading into an over budget position.
  • Positive - Complex KPI can now be tracked and as a consequence intensive plans can be made to capitalise on this level of reporting. Staff also have clear visibility over their own performance.
  • Negative - We are a bit on the small side at 30 employees for a ByD solution so it was relatively expensive for us. It would be a much better value preposition above 50 employees.
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ScreenShots

SAP Business ByDesign Screenshots

Screenshot of With the embedded analytics of SAP Business ByDesign this is easily possible for key users or end users to define dashboards that contain tailored reports and KPIs for their roleScreenshot of Screenshot of SAP Business ByDesign comes with many reports pre-delivered by SAP. Customers can easily create additional reports or KPIsScreenshot of For each business document in ByDesign you can open the document flow, which shows you in a graphical the predecessor and successor business docuemnts as well as any associated accounting documents. This shows at what point you are in the entire business process.Screenshot of SAP Business ByDesign includes a Project Management module that is integrated with CRM to sell and bill projects, with HR to staff projects, and with SCM and SRM for procurement.Screenshot of The Financial Closing business scenario helps you to perform financial period-end closing activities to ensure correct financial statements, such as Balance Sheet, Income Statement, and Cash Flow Statement. The Closing Cockpit helps to minimize the risk of missing important steps or incorrect timing.