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    Extreme Wireless Access Points

    Score9.6 out of 10
    N/AExtreme Networks' Wireless Access Points (or ExtremeWireless) are designed to provide performance in the most demanding environments with the latest Wi-Fi technologies including 6 GHz, OFDMA, MU-MIMO, and software-defined dual 6 GHz radios.N/A

    ScienceLogic AI Platform

    Score8.2 out of 10
    Enterprise companies (1,001+ employees)
    ScienceLogic provides a unified IT Operations platform designed to manage operational workflows using high-fidelity Telemetry Data and explainable automation. The ScienceLogic AI Platform is deployable across On-Premises, Cloud, and Hybrid Environments. The platform consolidates monitoring tools to provide Observability and enables engineers to automate manual processes using Machine Learning capabilities. The platform utilizes automation for Closed-Loop Remediation and provides insights…N/A
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    Free Trial
    NoNo
    Free/Freemium Version
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    Premium Consulting/Integration Services
    NoYes
    Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeRequired
    Additional Details—ScienceLogic SL1 offers four tiers: SL1 Advanced – Application Health, Automated Troubleshooting and Remediation Workflows SL1 Base – Infrastructure Monitoring, Topology & Event Correlation SL1 Premium – AI/ML-driven Analytics, Low-Code Automated Workflow Authoring SL1 Standard – Infrastructure Monitoring – with Agents, Business Services, Incident Automation, CMDB Synchronization, Behavioral Correlation
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    Key User Insights
    Would buy again
    83%
    Would buy again
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    Would buy again
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    Delivers good value for the price
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    Delivers good value for the price
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    Delivers good value for the price
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    Happy with the feature set
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    Happy with the feature set
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    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    80%
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
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    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
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    Implementation went as expected
    83%
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    81%
    Implementation went as expected
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    Features
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    Comparison of AIOps Features features of Extreme Wireless Access Points and ScienceLogic AI Platform
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    Ratings
    ScienceLogic AI Platform
    7.6
    26 Ratings
    0% below category average
    Monitoring and Alerting00 Ratings8.225 Ratings
    Performance Analytics00 Ratings7.826 Ratings
    Incident Management00 Ratings6.626 Ratings
    Service Desk Integration00 Ratings7.525 Ratings
    Root Cause Analysis00 Ratings7.721 Ratings
    Capacity Planning Tool00 Ratings7.222 Ratings
    Configuration and Change Management00 Ratings7.723 Ratings
    Automated Remediation00 Ratings7.620 Ratings
    Collaboration and Communication00 Ratings7.920 Ratings
    Threat Intelligence00 Ratings7.319 Ratings
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    User Ratings
    Extreme Wireless Access PointsScienceLogic AI Platform
    Likelihood to Recommend
    9.5
    (11 ratings)
    8.0
    (228 ratings)
    Likelihood to Renew
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    8.5
    (24 ratings)
    Usability
    8.7
    (3 ratings)
    9.6
    (15 ratings)
    Availability
    -
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    9.2
    (14 ratings)
    Performance
    9.0
    (2 ratings)
    8.2
    (14 ratings)
    Support Rating
    8.0
    (2 ratings)
    6.6
    (20 ratings)
    In-Person Training
    -
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    8.8
    (6 ratings)
    Online Training
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    7.7
    (8 ratings)
    Implementation Rating
    -
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    6.4
    (99 ratings)
    Configurability
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    10.0
    (7 ratings)
    Ease of integration
    -
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    8.0
    (15 ratings)
    Product Scalability
    -
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    8.0
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    Vendor post-sale
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    9.1
    (7 ratings)
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    8.3
    (7 ratings)
    User Testimonials
    Extreme Wireless Access PointsScienceLogic AI Platform
    Likelihood to Recommend
    Extreme Networks
    The Extreme access point solution has been used in the cooperative scenario with VLANs for employees in access through 802.1x authentication and also for guests through the captive portal that allows access of people for a limited time and prior registration. The equipment has great performance and connection speed and supports a high density of users connected at the same time without lag and crashes. The management of this equipment is being carried out through software with cloud management and is accessed by our infrastructure team to configure and monitor alerts.
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    ScienceLogic
    For Windows, the issue is in higher resource consumption related to WinRM monitoring, which provides better options then the SNMP monitoring, which on the other hand is less resource intensive. The problem is also with support for OS with other than English language.
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    Pros
    Extreme Networks
    • Ease of use and Management. The process of implementing APs is straight forward and managing the wireless infrastructure is quite simple and efficient.
    • Coverage: we are very happy with the distance each AP coverages in our warehouses without having any drop issues or over implementing APs.
    • Cost competitive versus other cloud managed wi-fi solutions such as Cisco, Aruba or Mist.
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    ScienceLogic
    • Best overall coverage of montioring different technologies.
    • Easy to use in any environment
    • Customizable being able to generate your own reports, dashboards, DA's, RBA's, etc.
    • Have very good out of the box integrations with other monitoring solutions such as ServiceNow
    • Always improving and regularly releasing new versions and upgrades to the system/DA's.
    • Interactive community
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    Cons
    Extreme Networks
    • In my experience, licensing has become a nightmare. Licensing must be tied to a device, they also won't let you activate used units from other companies if they are donated or purchased third-party.
    • Customer service is outsourced overseas.
    • In my experience, technicians are incentivized to close tickets quickly - whether the issue has been fixed or not - which can be frustrating to work with.
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    ScienceLogic
    • Dashboards are quite old and are of Iron age. Need to have AP2 dashboards only instead of AP1 and consistent new design across all functionalities.
    • Reporting is not improved since Y2020 and need to revamp completely. Need to integrate Dashboards and Reporting. PowerBI Like functionality to be given OOTB. Reports should be extracted in Excel, PDF, HTML and should be heavily automated.
    • Create and Open APIs for basic and advanced monitoring data extraction.
    • Topology based Event Correlation and Suppression should be improved drastically. Need to identify critical network interfaces based on Topology and monitor them. Basic customization of Dynamic App and/or Powerpack to exclude/include certain metrics/events to be permitted OOTB instead of customizations.
    • Integration with ServiceNow to be improved and to be taken to next level. Automation Powerpack should be made available OOTB as part of base product and to be priced attractively.
    • Take product to next level where we can monitor actual impacted IT or Business Service instead of metrics and events BSM and Topology map to be auto discovered and identify the network dependencies and alternate paths automatically instead of manual creation of BSM.
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    Likelihood to Renew
    Extreme Networks
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    ScienceLogic
    It is simply because of all the best possible autonomy solutions it is providing and getting better day by day. Using AI and Devops along with handy automation, The monitoring and Management of devices becomes much easier and the way it is growing in all the aspects is one the best reasons too. Evolution of the SL1 platform in the autonomy monitoring and management is quite appreciable.
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    Usability
    Extreme Networks
    Extreme Wireless Access Points are easy to manage. They are easy to deploy and install. The hardware and firmware are reliable. There a number of things to be improved since we are still using the WiNG platform, but all of those things will be much better when we migrate to CloudIQ.
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    ScienceLogic
    The core functions are there.
    The complexity is due to the complexity of the space.
    The score is based on comfort (I no longer notice the legacy UI) and the promise that I see in the 8.12 Unified UI (a vast improvement).
    It is also based on the fact that with 8.12, you can now do everything in the new UI but you still have the legacy UI as a fallback (which should now be unnecessary for new installations)
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    Reliability and Availability
    Extreme Networks
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    ScienceLogic
    SL is always there and online when you need to get info from it. The only times when SL was not available in our own data center, was when network links from out side of the data center was down and those links were not in our controll. Having a central database and people accessing it all over the world, may put a bit of constarin on the performance of the dashboards when reports gets generated, but that is far and few n between.
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    Performance
    Extreme Networks
    Extreme Wireless Access Points can support all our devices, even in high capacity areas. They are easy to manage and get basic information. There was a time back around 2017-2018 where people's devices needed to make sure they were using the latest wireless drivers; otherwise, people were having connection issues. Other than that time period, we were able to have fewer complaints from end users.
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    ScienceLogic
    SceinceLogic SL1 architecture helps the platform to give a top-notch performance in every respect, Data collection to reporting happens very smoothly. With the new user interface pages load much faster. Individual appliances carrying the individual task ensure things are working without lag. Integration with ticketing tool(SNOW) is well managed by the ScienceLogic, no issue or much delay has been observed while interacting with an external tool.
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    Support Rating
    Extreme Networks
    Support was always responsive and willing to help, but at times did not know when to call it and send a replacement to stop the bleeding. I respect that fact that they wanted to get the solution working, and the wanting to learn more and understand, but at times you cant do that at the expense of the customer.
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    ScienceLogic
    So far, it's good as part of my overall experience, except for a couple of use cases. The support team is well knowledgeable, has technical sound, and is efficient. When support escalates to engineering, the issue gets stuck and takes months to resolve.
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    In-Person Training
    Extreme Networks
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    ScienceLogic
    It was good, Do the online training first and understand it and you will get the most out of the in-person training that way. This also takes you to an advanced level which is very good and the training as been overhauled once again along with new product coming in such as Zebruim / Skylar, worth going through again if it a while back that you first did this.
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    Online Training
    Extreme Networks
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    ScienceLogic
    There are a lot of educational materials and courses on the SL1 training site (Litmos university). However the recording quality is sometimes not very good - screen resolution is low. There is a lack of professional rather than user-oriented documents and there are mistakes in documentation and education is not well structured.
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    Implementation Rating
    Extreme Networks
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    ScienceLogic
    Implementation is smooth if we are to just support the out-of-the-box features available in ScienceLogic. For any custom requirement, having to go to SL1 Professional Services is the worst part of procuring this suite. And more often than not, SL1 Professional Services also ask to raise feature request. So, you subscribe to Professional Services to only hear back from them that "This feature is not supported and needs to have a separate feature request". At times frustrating.
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    Alternatives Considered
    Extreme Networks
    I've used both Aruba and Cisco (traditional, not Meraki) for wireless, and each have their own strengths. Aruba offers a lot of feature functionality, though the interface is difficult and confusing to use (this was ~4 years ago). Cisco wireless is fairly straightforward to set up and expand, though features are more limited. Aerohive's benefit is the easy+speed of deployment. I've also used the Citrix NetScaler SSL VPN soft client and that works fairly well, though it doesn't compare like-for-like due to the fact that it's software vs. Aerohive, which is hardware.
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    ScienceLogic
    Science logic SL1 is so user friendly and it's really easy to navigate between function. I would recommend Sciene logic SL1 to all of them who are looking for really useful monitoring tool and expecting easy way of managing it.
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    Scalability
    Extreme Networks
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    ScienceLogic
    Our deployment model is vastly different from product expectations. Our global / internal monitoring foot print is 8 production stacks in dual data centers with 50% collection capacity allocated to each data center with minimal numbers of collection groups. General Collection is our default collection group. Special Collection is for monitoring our ASA and other hardware that cannot be polled by a large number of IP addresses, so this collection group is usually 2 collectors). Because most of our stacks are in different physical data centers, we cannot use the provided HA solution. We have to use the DR solution (DRBD + CNAMEs). We routinely test power in our data centers (yearly). Because we have to use DR, we have a hand-touch to flip nodes and change the DNS CNAME half of the times when there is an outage (by design). When the outage is planned, we do this ahead of the outage so that we don't care that the Secondary has dropped away from the Primary. Hopefully, we'll be able to find a way to meet our constraints and improve our resiliency and reduce our hand-touch in future releases. For now, this works for us and our complexity. (I hear that the HA option is sweet. I just can't consume that.)
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    Return on Investment
    Extreme Networks
    • Linking APs to AD, via NPS, and gaining the password reset policy; helped us move past some issues that we were held up on with SOC
    • Segregating corporate wifi and guest wifi, plus forcing guest wifi to agree to the Acceptable Use Policy, was needed to pass a compliance audit of the network.
    • Being able to locate which users are connected to which individual wifi AP, has been a asset with troubleshooting
    • APs sharing connections allows for us to overlap the wifi zones and create redundancy if an AP were to go offline for any reason.
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    ScienceLogic
    • Once a powerpack is developed and configured for a device for one customer, it is easy to deploy the same powerpack on a second customer estate and configure specifically for that customer without having to reinvent the powerpack. This saves time and therefore money.
    • Once the customer estate tuning is complete, the Operations team have come trust the alerts. This is especially true when transient or self-correcting alerts are automatically cleared without ops team involvement, but a record is still available for audit and debugging purposes. This saves time and therefore money.
    • When setup correctly, it provides good visibility into applications, devices and whole customer estates. This saves time and therefore money when issues arise.
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    ScienceLogic AI Platform Screenshots

    Screenshot of Unified Observability and Contextual IntelligenceScreenshot of Relationship Mapping & Service VisibilityScreenshot of ITSM and Collaboration IntegrationsScreenshot of Low-Code Workflow BuilderScreenshot of Dynamic Application DevelopmentScreenshot of Executive Overview Dashboard