Keap vs. Odoo CRM

Keap is very good at contact management and automation creation but weaker at email campaign creation. I was particularly interested in a function where when manually entering a new contact, you are then able to email that contact using a premade HTML template. It will currently not do this. There is a workaround, but it is unnecessarily ponderous.

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For small businesses and small teams, Odoo CRM is fine. It has the basics, and it is functional. But as the teams grow, processes become more complex, and reporting needs to be accurate, you will have to either allocate a budget to an Odoo partner or hire a Python developer internally. Sales-led organizations with larger teams will find poor reporting a deal-breaker. You can't do standard reporting that you find in HubSpot or Salesforce. So you end up doing a lot of customization or manual work to get the reports you need.

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• Pricing: Keap Max Classic (formerly Infusionsoft) is affordable for nonprofits and small businesses and includes all the automation features we need!
• Customer Support: Our onboarding and success coaches have been so helpful, taking into account some unique processes we have and finding solutions.
• Updates: Keap is constantly providing more and better solutions!

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• Generating quotations partiuclarly for the ease of data amendment so that products can be added on the fly and names can be amended per quote to suit
• The contact tagging feature is a fantastic way of grouping customers/leads into industry specific groups for targetting specific areas seperately
• Very versatile customer pricelist function for ensuring discount structures are accurately calculated

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• More articles and videos on how to use the various functions of Keap
• Having representatives designated to certain regions or companies for a point of contact when help is needed
• More options when building the emails. While the click and drop options can be a plus, they can also be negative because you are limited to image and text sizing and positions

• UI can be improved
• The lead view can be better since we have to scroll a lot.
• The server is down or technical glitches are happening . We have seen distance in lead count

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We have invested a lot into Infusionsoft and are using it to automate our processes and marketing. Changing CRMs would have a HUGE cost for us and based on our evaluations, the grass isn't greener elsewhere. Infusiosoft fits most of our needs and is slowly getting better each year. Their support is great and we will continue to use them until something much better comes around or our company outgrows a small business CRM.

You do need to spend some time on-boarding and implementing the software in order to have full functionality. We were lucky - we had colleagues at the university with experience with Keap and then hired an intern familiar with the software to get us set up and ready to use it. We've had some functionality issues with it along the way and that has frustrated myself and the other uses in our department.

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Odoo CRM is usable and has a lot of features, so it gives us the basics we need to run a successful business. The problem is, it requires a lot of time and money to customize it and run it smoothly. Plus, Odoo support can be pretty bad. For every 1 good support agent, there are 9 that don't pay attention. We have an internal running joke that ChatGPT is more helpful than Odoo support when they first reply. Once we get to product experts, they usually know what they are talking about. But the first-level support agents, you have to push them and re-explain things to get them to understand and hopefully escalate. Plus, they always miss SLA response times, blaming it on a busy period. Usually takes a week for the first reply. You can get live chat sometimes, but 9 out of 10 times, they will ask you to create a support ticket. Then you wait.

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There have been few outages since we became a customer, and when they have technical issues they are typically resolved rapidly.

OMG, it's all in one and that compromises everything, fundamentally. If you want a race car, invest in a race car. If you want a dune buggy, get that. If you want a boat that floats, go for it.

Generally, very responsive support for even our more complicated issues. We do have some open issues that we need resolutions on and that I understand are complicated and will take longer to resolve but the open issues are significantly impacting to our business.

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This was a bit of a sticking point, we find the support can be lacking and generally its recommended to spurchase a support pack of hours in order to benefit from full support. We have subsequently gone on to do a lot of the implementation and training by ourselves following lots of trial and error so although things are working now, it was initialy a bumpy road implementing!

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I have been to a number of in-person training sessions over the years with Keap and all of them have been FANTASTIC. They really put a lot of time and effort into these sessions. Staff and facilitators go out of their way to ensure that participants are getting what they need.

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The results of training online are often based on how people learn. The training was great but with feature updates, you just have to get in there sometimes and do it! The training definitely lays a firm enough foundation for you to be successful even if its can't be updated with every feature update.

Don't let the fear of implementing a new software solution keep you from unleashing the power of automation that Infusionsoft provides. With the right implementation partner, the process can not only be smooth and painless, it can actually help you get a better understanding for how your current communication process can be improved upon.

Keap is fast. The learning curve is shorter and they have an academy for learning with videos quite extensive that explain a lot of different scenarios, specially when you need to customize scenarios of automations and segments. Is cheaper if you consider that this services CRM + Mailing don´t come often in one package and the realiability to send mails is quite good.

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Odoo was referred by one of my friends and interface was attractive with all these pipelines, filters, etc

We were able to filter leads super precisely and project as per our vision. The notes and reminders are useful. Odoo Congress with inbuilt calender option from where you can create events and share with the team or the respective prospects

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You get a lot of features included, but you don't need to use them all at once to start seeing an effect. When you are ready to use them, they are there. It also scales without costing too much money.

• Automation has allowed us to be more engaged and invested in our customers by reminding us about birthdays and other important events in their lives so that we can celebrate with them.
• We lacked the manpower to sell and distribute orders online before setting up the payments and automation features. We now collect $5k+ a week in lost sales through online ordering.
• List cleaning functionality and engagment settings have allowed us to run a 40-50% email open rate that allows us to create an engaged community around local events and opportunities as well as sales and special offerings.

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• We're managing millions of dollars in sales orders.
• 20-30% of time can be spent on fixing or dealing with issues, partially because of Odoo.sh hosting platform limitations.
• Odoo CRM does allow us to do what we need to run a successful business; it's just 5 years behind HubSpot and Salesforce.

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