Epicor Eclipse is an end-to-end business system for wholesale distributors, as well as electrical, HVAC, plumbing and PVF businesses. Eclipse simplifies complex distribution processes found in today’s dynamic supply chains.
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Microsoft Dynamics GP
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Microsoft Dynamics GP is an ERP software with accounting capabilities. It includes various packs for customizability and features tailored to specific industries’ needs. GP is offered as a perpetual license or subscription.
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I wasn't involved in this process. We don't consider changing ERPs because our user base is too large, and it would take too many resources.
Most of my experience has been with Epicor's Prophet 21. For most distribution verticals, Prophet 21 is the only way to go. The comparison I've drawn is this: Prophet 21 is like a ferrari. Epicor Eclipse is like a reliable donkey. Both get you from point A to point B but …
There aren't any better industry specific ones, but I have looked at Dynamics 365, SAP, Odoo, and others to see if a more robust, configurable, ERP could be customized to suit our industry. Not yet, but the balance is tipping away from Eclipse.
The first company that I worked for in the wholesale industry had an in house ERP. This ERP, I thought at the time was really great. When I started using e-term, I realized that my first experience of an ERP was not as strong as it could have been.
Since we have been on Eclipse for 13 years, our only comparison to other business systems is when training new employees and ask those new users their opinions during training. In general, nearly all new users of Solar Eclipse are impressed by the ease of use, ease of …
Epicor Eclipse was here when I started 2 years ago. SAP and Great Plains were used at previous employers. Epicor Eclipse versus the others, I would say that Eclipse has the edge in terms of the learning curve for new employees because of how easy it is to use. However, it is …
Microsoft Dynamics GP is obviously superior to the other platforms I’ve used simply in its robustness and GAAP compliance features, but with far less usability and even in someways less usable reporting.
Business Central wasn't out then. Nav, the predecessor, was out, but its user interface was dated until 2009, when the role-tailored client came out; it was much better afterwards. If your company has manufacturing, then Business Central is the way to go. It's unfortunate that …
Due to the size of our company Microsoft Dynamics GP works better for us than Quickbooks because of the reporting capabilities. However, the NetSuite demo proved to be much more user-friendly with more reporting capabilities.
Because GP doesn't do CRM we have looked at D365 Customer Engagement for our field service, and F&O as a replacement. Vaporware, no direct upgrade path, and if you want to continue with GP for your back office and just use Field Service it's an insanely complex integration …
There are more features and products overall in the Microsoft package at a better price point. Overall, Salesforce has a much sleeker and more user-friendly design.
We moved from Epicor Eagle N Series to Dynamics GP as an accounting solution for our new POS system. I believe Dynamics GP has more options to create and present financial statements for a large company with many regions and districts. However, because of the weakness of our …
They both accomplish the same thing, I think Oracle was what I first learned and thus making the change to Microsoft Dynamics GP just took a little bit of time to learn the technology. After you get the hang of it, it becomes much easier and I taught my coworkers how to use it.
I did not pick Dynamics over Salesforce, my company was using it and eventually switched over to Salesforce. I would say that Dynamics is user-friendly and the interface is quite easy to understand. I really like the reporting capabilities as well. Once again, the aesthetic …
At the time of purchase, Microsoft Dynamics GP seemed more appropriate and more in sync with the needs of our company. The software was more responsive, user-friendly and it allowed for more flexibility with the way it was intended to be used. We were also promised better …
My recollection of Quickbooks pro isn't great, and it was over 10 years ago. Obviously many things have changed in that time frame, so any comparison would likely not be relevant.
The only product with have shopped was Sage Intacct. It is somewhat unfair to compare the two solutions, because Sage Intacct is a cloud-based solution. That said, Intacct appears to advertise better reporting/business intelligence capabilities. MS Dynamics GP should be aware …
Microsoft Dynamics GP is one of the best ERP's for a medium or small business in the market today. When we were looking for the right software, it had already a connection developed with our 3rd party logistics system, so the decision was pretty easy since the logistic / supply …
Dynamics GP is much more flexible and enterprise-oriented than Quickbooks Pro or similar software. It can support many more users and scenarios. However it requires more dedicated infrastructure (such as servers and databases) and more dedicated IT resources to maintain and …
I love Dayforce for payroll. It has been configured to meet all our needs, is user-friendly and the customer support is fantastic. We originally moved from MDGP payroll to Ceridian Insync payroll due to the issues we had. We upgraded to Dayforce and are very happy with the …
Learning GP with so many resources from the GP community has been easy. Someone always has the answer or suggestions to point me in the right direction. I've had very few instances where the systems caused an error that required research in order to fix the glitch.
We looked at several general ledger software packages. We had excellent customer service and implementation guidance through a third party. Having a knowledgeable consultant is critical to a successful implementation.
Quickbooks Pro and GP are not on the same playing field. GP is a full account system adhering to GAAP, while QuickBooks is designed for the small business market. While starting out with QuickBooks is easy, if you plan to grow, you will soon outgrow it.
Microsoft Dynamics is a good, easy to use product for entities that do not have advanced manufacturing. If I were to go into a distribution or service type business I would highly recommend it. If I were to go into an advanced manufacturing environment I would not consider GP.
The capabilities, when combined with some of the integration offerings, make for a really nice platform. Coming from another company where we had several systems for processing inbound, outbound, e-commerce, sales, etc., it is nice to have everything contained in one system. makes communication within the company easier and teaching easier.
Microsoft Dynamics GP is well-suited for our environment, as we pay a diverse group of employees, including on-the-road drivers, shop employees (some in other locations), and office employees. It easily tracks time off, taxes, pay, etc. The reporting allows us to verify with our drivers how they are paid each week, whether it be through mileage or stop-offs.
Able to be extended into multiple areas of your business
One feature we have been using for a few years is EFT for payables - it has significantly reduced the time spent paying vendors and reduced our check printing and mailing costs. It is very easy to setup and use.
In my opinion, Epicor seems to want to sell add-on products constantly. They don't provide pricing at the beginning, but then rely on sticker shock and hidden costs (e.g. APIs)
There are times when we cannot figure out where numbers are coming from, especially costs. It would be nice if there was a way to see, in plain English, where a cost is coming from.
It seems unconscionable that we are unable to print financial statements to a pdf file.
In our experience, Support, which had been going well for a while, has become much less reliable and not very timely.
Supply chain management is adequate but not exceptional, and there are challenges tying the product to a website front end. These features are present and work fine in many environments but are often lacking for customers who need more robust systems.
Reporting tools often require consulting expertise or an internal business analyst to develop. Many smaller companies don't have this skill set, so it can be costly to upgrade to GP from a smaller packages like QuickBooks.
Some features that are available in competing products are still not present in GP, such as full copy-paste functionality and more intelligent workflow/batch processing functions.
I use it every day and can't see a reason why I would stop unless I started a new job. If I were to leave my present position, the new job would be much more attractive if they were Eclipse users.
Due the economic challenges that Puerto Rico is having, the company has had to merge some companies in order to be more efficient. It has been easy in GP to process those merges, even thought we had to spend days to accomplish that the process was smooth and accurate. In addition we were able to streamline the purchasing and sales process and the organization is confident to keep renewing GP for the future versions.
Epicor Eclipse has saved our organization from financial mismanagement, which could lead to operational inefficiencies. It has streamlined purchase orders and invoice processing, reducing instances of underpayment and overpayment. It has enhanced the segmentation of financial statements by store and by day, making it easier to track profitability.
Menus are generally quite difficult to navigate, user-friendliness is lacking, platform can at times be unstable (crashes, etc), reports tha would seem to report one thing do not actually return that data. Usability is probably the biggest weakness of Microsoft Dynamics GP.
I haven't experienced any outages in the two years I have been using the system. It is always available as long as the computer is up. The only time I have seen it not be available was on occasions where we lost internet, or power and then we lost access to everything, not just Epicor Eclipse.
Everything in this system moves fairly quickly, that may be in part because we are a small company with only 21 users on the system at a time, or it may just be a the way the Epicor Eclipse works for any size company with any number of users. I can only speak for what I know and say that it is fast for our purposes.
The tier 1 support is trying, and sometimes they are successful. Sometimes they aren't. This topic isn't as black and white as the questions might suggest. Currently their Tier 1 support team is over seas, all items automatically go to Tier 1 and then when they can't help they either escalate it or tell me they need to check with someone else and they will get back to me. If they escalate me to Tier 2, then the issue comes back to the States and the support is usually at a higher knowledge/experience level and it can get resolved fairly quickly. If they don't escalate, then it might take weeks and multiple follow ups on my part before I either get a satisfactory resolution or finally get escalated.
The training classes that I have attended have been top notch. The presenters are extremely knowledgeable on their subject matter, including real-world application of the system. They aren't just software techs training end users, they seem to be end users that have become experts in the over functionality and capabilities of the system.
The on-line training is very good, and it is taught by the same people that do the live in-person training sessions. The difficult part of it is, asking questions about your specific company's nuances or special circumstances. I don't remember if you can access the on-line training sessions after you have taken them for reminders purposes, but if so that is a great asset.
I don't really know about the implementation, it was back in 1998 and I didn't start here until 2016. By the time I started here they had been running it for a number of years and most of the people that were here when it was implemented are no longer here, and the ones that are don't really have much to say about how the implementation went either bad or good.
Basically the challenge with this implementation was the Business Portal, too many errors and even the aplication is up and running the users are still having issues. We will start planning the migraton to GP 2015 soon.
Most of my experience has been with Epicor's Prophet 21. For most distribution verticals, Prophet 21 is the only way to go. The comparison I've drawn is this: Prophet 21 is like a ferrari. Epicor Eclipse is like a reliable donkey. Both get you from point A to point B but Prophet 21 is going to get you there much quicker and with the kind of insight into your business that will help you thrive.
Because GP doesn't do CRM we have looked at D365 Customer Engagement for our field service, and F&O as a replacement. Vaporware, no direct upgrade path, and if you want to continue with GP for your back office and just use Field Service it's an insanely complex integration import/export. D365 F&O is a huge implementation cost, and without a direct migration path every bit of data has to be custom imported. There really is no straightforward way to stack up GP against these programs currently. Again, the future of GP is in some doubt.
I don't really know about the scalability. It's the same as it was when I started, I do know that you can buy more user licenses, but I think they come in packs of 5, which can be a problem if you only need 1 and will never use the other 4. But, again I'm not sure on that.
Reporting features allow tracking items trending downward which can glut inventory space and dollars if not adjusted
GMROI reports help analyze turn ratios and adjusted dollar values and margins of product lines.
Suggested Purchase Order features allowed controlled inventory purchases which avoid lost sales while managing overall dollars invested in an acquired product with the lowest freight costs possible.
We have never missed a payroll using Great Plains. We have the ability to fix any issues that come up quickly.
It streamlines our departments that handle money into one unified system. This gives accounting and finance the overall picture in one system.
With Integration Manager we have to worry less about taking time to hand key transactions. This cuts down on entry time and increase efficiency for our clerks.