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    ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price

    Blackbaud Luminate Online

    Score6.7 out of 10
    Mid-Size Companies (51-1,000 employees)
    Luminate Online aims to help non-profits engage more effectively with supporters and raise more money by enabling integrated campaigns for digital, social and mobile channels. According to the vendor, Luminate Online helps non-profits: Better understand online supporters Make the right ask at the right time Launch creative fundraising campaigns Automated campaigns stimulate engagement and action through targeted welcome messages with personalized…N/A

    Agentforce Marketing

    Score7.6 out of 10
    N/AMarketing Cloud is a cloud-based digital marketing platform, used by marketers can segment their audience, deliver personalized messages, track campaign performance, engage leads and accounts, and optimize strategies based on real-time insights.

    $1,250

    per month per installation

    Pricing
    Blackbaud Luminate OnlineAgentforce Marketing
    Editions & Modules
    No answers on this topic
    Account Engagement
    $1,250
    per month
    Engagement
    $1,250
    per month
    Intelligence
    $3,000
    per month
    Loyalty Management
    $20,000
    per month
    Personalization
    $100,000
    per year
    Data Cloud for Marketing
    $108,000
    per year
    Offerings
    Pricing Offerings
    Blackbaud Luminate OnlineAgentforce Marketing
    Free Trial
    NoYes
    Free/Freemium Version
    NoNo
    Premium Consulting/Integration Services
    YesYes
    Entry-level Setup FeeRequiredNo setup fee
    Additional DetailsLuminate Online is priced based on the number of email addresses on file, modules used and service plan. Our peer to peer offering, TeamRaiser, has a transactional, shared success pricing model.
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    Blackbaud Luminate OnlineAgentforce Marketing
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    Blackbaud
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    Salesforce
    Chose Agentforce Marketing
    Pardot offers equal or better performance when compared to other industry leaders. It's as user-friendly as Emma and Mailchimp and outpaces others like Blackbaud Luminate. The WYSIWYG (like all other email platforms) has some quirks to navigate around, but it's generally easy …
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    Would buy again
    57%
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    88%
    Would buy again
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    Delivers good value for the price
    50%
    Delivers good value for the price
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    89%
    Delivers good value for the price
    72 Answers
    Happy with the feature set
    71%
    Happy with the feature set
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    93%
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    89 Answers
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    No answers on this topic
    88%
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    58 Answers
    Implementation went as expected
    No answers on this topic
    84%
    Implementation went as expected
    54 Answers
    Features
    Blackbaud Luminate OnlineAgentforce Marketing
    Email & Online Marketing
    Comparison of Email & Online Marketing features of Blackbaud Luminate Online and Salesforce Agentforce Marketing
    Feature
    Blackbaud Luminate Online
    -
    Ratings
    Salesforce Agentforce Marketing
    7.3
    171 Ratings
    5% below category average
    WYSIWYG email editor00 Ratings7.4122 Ratings
    Dynamic content00 Ratings8.1153 Ratings
    Ability to test dynamic content00 Ratings6.3112 Ratings
    Landing pages00 Ratings7.6121 Ratings
    A/B testing00 Ratings7.0151 Ratings
    Mobile optimization00 Ratings6.7111 Ratings
    Email deliverability reporting00 Ratings7.3132 Ratings
    List management00 Ratings8.1129 Ratings
    Triggered drip sequences00 Ratings7.295 Ratings
    Lead Management
    Comparison of Lead Management features of Blackbaud Luminate Online and Salesforce Agentforce Marketing
    Feature
    Blackbaud Luminate Online
    -
    Ratings
    Salesforce Agentforce Marketing
    8.1
    124 Ratings
    4% above category average
    Lead nurturing automation00 Ratings8.8109 Ratings
    Lead scoring and grading00 Ratings8.1110 Ratings
    Data quality management00 Ratings7.3116 Ratings
    Automated sales alerts and tasks00 Ratings8.2101 Ratings
    Campaign Management
    Comparison of Campaign Management features of Blackbaud Luminate Online and Salesforce Agentforce Marketing
    Feature
    Blackbaud Luminate Online
    -
    Ratings
    Salesforce Agentforce Marketing
    7.3
    114 Ratings
    1% below category average
    Calendaring00 Ratings7.3103 Ratings
    Event/webinar marketing00 Ratings7.497 Ratings
    Social Media Marketing
    Comparison of Social Media Marketing features of Blackbaud Luminate Online and Salesforce Agentforce Marketing
    Feature
    Blackbaud Luminate Online
    -
    Ratings
    Salesforce Agentforce Marketing
    7.4
    88 Ratings
    1% below category average
    Social sharing and campaigns00 Ratings7.383 Ratings
    Social profile integration00 Ratings7.539 Ratings
    Reporting & Analytics
    Comparison of Reporting & Analytics features of Blackbaud Luminate Online and Salesforce Agentforce Marketing
    Feature
    Blackbaud Luminate Online
    -
    Ratings
    Salesforce Agentforce Marketing
    7.6
    124 Ratings
    3% above category average
    Dashboards00 Ratings8.1118 Ratings
    Standard reports00 Ratings7.3123 Ratings
    Custom reports00 Ratings7.3100 Ratings
    Platform & Infrastructure
    Comparison of Platform & Infrastructure features of Blackbaud Luminate Online and Salesforce Agentforce Marketing
    Feature
    Blackbaud Luminate Online
    -
    Ratings
    Salesforce Agentforce Marketing
    7.5
    124 Ratings
    0% below category average
    API00 Ratings6.790 Ratings
    Role-based workflow & approvals00 Ratings6.689 Ratings
    Customizability00 Ratings6.9111 Ratings
    Integration with Salesforce.com00 Ratings7.6113 Ratings
    Integration with Microsoft Dynamics CRM00 Ratings8.914 Ratings
    Integration with SugarCRM00 Ratings8.611 Ratings
    Third-party software integrations00 Ratings7.524 Ratings
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    User Ratings
    Blackbaud Luminate OnlineAgentforce Marketing
    Likelihood to Recommend
    3.7
    (87 ratings)
    8.2
    (329 ratings)
    Likelihood to Renew
    9.0
    (21 ratings)
    8.1
    (114 ratings)
    Usability
    2.1
    (28 ratings)
    8.5
    (37 ratings)
    Availability
    10.0
    (3 ratings)
    10.0
    (11 ratings)
    Performance
    9.2
    (9 ratings)
    9.6
    (9 ratings)
    Support Rating
    5.0
    (32 ratings)
    7.0
    (36 ratings)
    In-Person Training
    8.0
    (2 ratings)
    5.0
    (4 ratings)
    Online Training
    7.3
    (14 ratings)
    8.1
    (7 ratings)
    Implementation Rating
    3.0
    (4 ratings)
    3.0
    (17 ratings)
    Configurability
    6.6
    (9 ratings)
    -
    (0 ratings)
    Contract Terms and Pricing Model
    -
    (0 ratings)
    5.0
    (1 ratings)
    Ease of integration
    6.0
    (1 ratings)
    7.0
    (2 ratings)
    Product Scalability
    9.8
    (11 ratings)
    7.5
    (40 ratings)
    Vendor post-sale
    9.0
    (1 ratings)
    8.0
    (3 ratings)
    Vendor pre-sale
    5.0
    (1 ratings)
    7.0
    (3 ratings)
    User Testimonials
    Blackbaud Luminate OnlineAgentforce Marketing
    Likelihood to Recommend
    Blackbaud
    Blackbaud Luminate Online is an excellent solution for online giving, providing a wealth of tools for producing donation forms. It also is outstanding for peer-to-peer fundraising, such as event-based efforts like walks, cycling tours, and so forth. The Email module is outstanding if you need an internal solution for communicating with your donors and supporters. It provides a wealth of tools for crafting emails, and for reporting on the results.
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    Salesforce
    I think the product, by definition, is meant for marketing — and we use it exactly for that, for running campaigns. That’s the best-suited use case for the product. I don’t think it’s really meant to be used for anything else — that’s just not how it’s designed.
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    Pros
    Blackbaud
    • House Donor Information. Easy report pulling. Queries and lists.
    • I like how everything is housed on one platform. Webpages, emails and donor profiles. User friendly.
    • It works nicely with other blackbaud products such as Raiser's Edge. Easy importing and exporting options.
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    • Filter relevant content so you can priorize those that are more relevant and resolve it first
    • Measure the traffic in the different social networks, as well as the response rate, average response time and other relevant metrics
    • Configure automation rules to order the work of those who must interact with the customer
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    Cons
    Blackbaud
    • Reporting needs some work, this is being worked on in their new BETA program.
    • The eCommerce module needs some work. It would be great to have more ability to customize parts of it without having to rewrite the code.
    • The Events module could use some improvements as well.
    • The Personal Fundraising module needs a lot of work. It really cannot work as needed right now. We started using TeamRaiser to handle this, but it could be great.
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    Salesforce
    • The email builder does not offer any way to catch/check bugs across different email service providers
    • Creating SQL is not as easy as drag-and-drop; a lot of technical knowledge is required
    • Salesforce Marketing Cloud is sold as a marketing tool, but to be honest, you need a LOT of technical IT support to run the tool
    • Einstein metrics are across the board; if you have multiple audiences in one instance of Salesforce Marketing Cloud you can't segment the data.
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    Likelihood to Renew
    Blackbaud
    We’ve decided to leave Luminate and are moving to a system that better caters to our and our users needs. Luminate has proven difficult to use and has limited abilities when it comes to data management, events, and peer-to-peer functionality. Reporting is also very complicated and requires a great deal of time to utilize properly.
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    Salesforce
    As of right now we have not seen any other program that integrates as seamlessly into our Salesforce platform. We have barely scratched the surface of all the features and use cases. It would be irresponsible to make a move to another platform in the near future. We have not come up against any limitations that would prompt a need to switch
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    Usability
    Blackbaud
    You have to be very tech savvy to use Luminate to its fullest potential. You can get buy with the training, but there is a steep learning curve and you almost need 6 months to 1 year of in-person training to really be able to anything substantial. The online training lessons are not going to cut it while learning this program.
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    Salesforce
    You won't find another solution that has as many features as Salesforce Marketing Cloud Interaction Studio. We all know Salesforce, we all know how big they are and it's not for nothing... Their tools do most of the things you want, need and even imagine. Using it is complicated, but the usability is infinite.
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    Reliability and Availability
    Blackbaud
    It's a very rare occurrence if the system isn't available when I want it. I can easily log in from home after hours if need be, and the security is enforced, but simple when you're legit! They are very good about sending email reminders and updates when system maintenance will be performed, and it's always during middle of the night hours when you likely wouldn't be using it anyways
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    Salesforce
    Upgrades and timing of the upgrades were communicated well and planned during off hours for our work. If we did have a campaign scheduled during that time, it would kick-off after the system was back active. There were a few unplanned system down times, but it was a rare occurrence and those times were also short in duration.
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    Performance
    Blackbaud
    Pages load fast and 98% of the reports do run in a matter of secons/minutes. There is this one report I have that can take hours to run, but this is due to the amount of transactions being requested for one of our biggest online fundraising events (Transaction report)
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    Salesforce
    Though the make up of MA apps is not built this way today, it would be nice to see them become more real-time. The integration between Salesforce and Pardot is not a true real-time integration. If I modify something in Salesforce, those changes are not automatically reflected in Pardot immediately. There is a delay of about 15 minutes before the systems sync. This delay, although not long, is less than ideal We would love the systems to be integrated real time such that changes are propagated from one system to the other immediately.
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    Support Rating
    Blackbaud
    Support staff are usually incredibly helpful and responsive. There are several ways to contact them (chat, logging a ticket, phone) which makes it easy to get help when you need it. Once in a while I get a support staff member who isn't quite as helpful, which is why I gave it a 9 instead of a 10, but that is rare and if I follow up with someone else, I get what I need.
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    Salesforce
    They are really responsive and more than not solve the problem or give you insight to how you can manage the solution yourself. I do find however sometimes a long delay on the more complex issues when they need to loop in other departments. but overall a good experience with support
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    In-Person Training
    Blackbaud
    Initial training was great and the instructor was very patient and helpful during the set up process. Blackbaud has a variety on online self-paced classes that supplement the training you receive. The only downfall is after training is complete. I've found the support for Luminate to be a tad lackluster. We often encounter issues that aren't on Luminate's development road map and have had a series of cases be opened.
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    Salesforce
    The trainers at the Pardot user conference (Elevate and Connections) were very knowledgeable and presented the material well. Again, the content was targeted to more of a new user audience, and was not really relevant for folks who had been using the product for 2+ years.
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    Online Training
    Blackbaud
    When I used the training, I had actually been using Luminate Online but figured it might help me learn to use the tools more effectively. And it did. The sessions were helpful and even as a current user I felt like I learned how to use the tools more effectively.
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    Salesforce
    Pardot's online training touches on all topics briefly and vaguely without much indepth exploration into how a final outcome could look, such as Nurturing Campaigns, Email templates, landing page templates, etc... The only true way to uncover Pardot's full capabilities is to have Front End design and coding experience. Without this key skill set, I would not recommend Pardot to another business.
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    Implementation Rating
    Blackbaud
    Implementation of Luminate itself was rather smooth, but the process involved for TeamRaiser was very difficult. Even after implementation we relied on support to help with various aspects of TeamRaiser from page design to reporting and front end user issues. The support offered for issues with Luminate was very good, but again TeamRaiser support was lacking.
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    Salesforce
    From an IT perspective, once you set up the Javascript beacon and start collecting data there is a waiting game. During this time you can start labeling your site actions which can be labor intensive for a single person, but you don't really have the final end-users on the platform yet. We did a lot of training so users were experienced, but it wasn't until they had their first tasks to accomplish that they started using the system and had questions. I'd recommend setting up some immediate goals for an end-user to start segmenting for the purpose of displaying message campaigns so you can jump start end-user action.
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    Alternatives Considered
    Blackbaud
    The only other product I have used for this type of fundraising work is NetCommunity and it hasn't been as scalable or versatile. It doesn't really offer the peer to peer fundraising of Luminate or the constituent management, web page development and considered donation forms. NetCommunity didn't even come close which is why we replaced it with Luminate.
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    Salesforce
    We use Salesforce Marketing Cloud for lead management, generating reports, tracking customer and dealer information, inputting orders, and more. I prefer HubSpot for email marketing and automation because it is easier to use and the emails are designed much better. We currently use Salesforce and HubSpot, and we are very happy to have both, as they have different pros/cons.
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    Contract Terms and Pricing Model
    Blackbaud
    No answers on this topic
    Salesforce
    was not involved with this part but i have not heard about clompaints
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    Scalability
    Blackbaud
    Luminate Online is a great scalable product as it provides various price points dependent on your quantity of email addresses. This allows both small and large organizations to utilize the product, which has strong email capabilities. It also means smaller organizations aren't forced to pay astronomical fees in order to have access to a quality product.
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    Salesforce
    Prior to this, we had no solution and literally were doing things on paper in a world where technology is outpacing paper. Having this process optimized has made it easier for the sales and marketing people to change information. From the training perspective, it has allowed us to see holes in where we could create additional support training, so the ROI here has been a lot more than just the optimization of a process.
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    Return on Investment
    Blackbaud
    • We've increased our online giving +200% although this is due in part to our focus on the channel and not entirely on the product.
    • We've been able to increase employee efficiency by selecting email lists per message within Luminate Online. With our prior solution we needed to request data be pulled from our database for event email.
    • We've really done a great job of growing our online tribute and memorial giving through the use of custom links and the pre-populated information has really helped with the back end processing.
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    Salesforce
    • Salesforce Marketing Cloud allows us to more efficiently reach out to a higher number of prospects.
    • Salesforce Marketing Cloud allows us to nimbly communicate important messages in a timely fashion to facilitate conversion.
    • Salesforce Marketing Cloud allows us to track who is opening our messages so that we can stop sending to those not interested and focus on the most engaged audiences.
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    ScreenShots

    Blackbaud Luminate Online Screenshots

    Screenshot of Email Overview DashboardScreenshot of Luminate allows you to enable multiple types of giving - from recurring to matching and everything between.Screenshot of Luminate enables you to reach out to supporters in multiple waysScreenshot of Luminate Peer to Peer fundraising with DIY events, also enables your supporters to fundraising on their behalf.

    Agentforce Marketing Screenshots

    Screenshot of Pardot Analytics - Pardot's reporting and analytics can be used to perform true revenue impact analysis and closed-loop reporting.Screenshot of Pardot Email Analytics - The reach and impact of  email marketing efforts are displayed in real-time with advanced reporting and analytics by device, and email client.Screenshot of Pardot Forms and Landing Pages - Pardot's form and landing page builders are used to turn online traffic to leads with targeted offers and content marketing.Screenshot of Pardot Email Marketing - Lead nurturing flows are defined via an interface that enables definition of the simplest or most complex segmented and targeted campaigns.