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    ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price

    Epicor Eclipse

    Score7.7 out of 10
    N/AEpicor Eclipse is an end-to-end business system for wholesale distributors, as well as electrical, HVAC, plumbing and PVF businesses. Eclipse simplifies complex distribution processes found in today’s dynamic supply chains.N/A

    Epicor Kinetic

    Score8.1 out of 10
    N/AEpicor Kinetic is a customizable, scalable, product-centric cloud ERP designed specifically for manufacturers.N/A
    Pricing
    Epicor EclipseEpicor Kinetic
    Editions & Modules
    No answers on this topic
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    Offerings
    Pricing Offerings
    Epicor EclipseEpicor Kinetic
    Free Trial
    NoNo
    Free/Freemium Version
    NoNo
    Premium Consulting/Integration Services
    NoYes
    Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
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    Community Pulse
    Epicor EclipseEpicor Kinetic
    Considered Both Products
    Epicor Software
    No answer on this topic
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    Key User Insights
    Would buy again
    54%
    Would buy again
    7 Answers
    92%
    Would buy again
    169 Answers
    Delivers good value for the price
    56%
    Delivers good value for the price
    5 Answers
    90%
    Delivers good value for the price
    126 Answers
    Happy with the feature set
    69%
    Happy with the feature set
    9 Answers
    88%
    Happy with the feature set
    162 Answers
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    No answers on this topic
    77%
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    67 Answers
    Implementation went as expected
    No answers on this topic
    70%
    Implementation went as expected
    93 Answers
    Features
    Epicor EclipseEpicor Kinetic
    Payroll Management
    Comparison of Payroll Management features of Epicor Eclipse and Epicor Kinetic
    Feature
    Epicor Eclipse
    7.8
    7 Ratings
    4% above category average
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.9
    52 Ratings
    5% above category average
    Pay calculation8.15 Ratings8.250 Ratings
    Benefit plan administration8.15 Ratings8.129 Ratings
    Direct deposit files8.17 Ratings7.537 Ratings
    Customization
    Comparison of Customization features of Epicor Eclipse and Epicor Kinetic
    Feature
    Epicor Eclipse
    6.5
    15 Ratings
    15% below category average
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.0
    151 Ratings
    6% above category average
    API for custom integration6.113 Ratings8.3145 Ratings
    Plug-ins6.815 Ratings7.7120 Ratings
    Security
    Comparison of Security features of Epicor Eclipse and Epicor Kinetic
    Feature
    Epicor Eclipse
    6.1
    21 Ratings
    32% below category average
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.4
    177 Ratings
    0% below category average
    Single sign-on capability5.614 Ratings8.8149 Ratings
    Role-based user permissions6.721 Ratings8.1174 Ratings
    Reporting & Analytics
    Comparison of Reporting & Analytics features of Epicor Eclipse and Epicor Kinetic
    Feature
    Epicor Eclipse
    5.2
    24 Ratings
    37% below category average
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.6
    186 Ratings
    1% above category average
    Dashboards5.418 Ratings7.2178 Ratings
    Standard reports5.524 Ratings7.4183 Ratings
    Custom reports4.824 Ratings8.1174 Ratings
    General Ledger and Configurable Accounting
    Comparison of General Ledger and Configurable Accounting features of Epicor Eclipse and Epicor Kinetic
    Feature
    Epicor Eclipse
    7.2
    28 Ratings
    7% below category average
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.3
    199 Ratings
    6% below category average
    Accounts payable7.328 Ratings8.7189 Ratings
    Accounts receivable7.423 Ratings8.6184 Ratings
    Global Financial Support7.313 Ratings7.8103 Ratings
    Primary and Secondary Ledgers7.413 Ratings8.2126 Ratings
    Journals and Reconciliations7.119 Ratings7.6151 Ratings
    Configurable Accounting7.017 Ratings8.1136 Ratings
    Standardized Processes7.020 Ratings8.0159 Ratings
    Inventory Management
    Comparison of Inventory Management features of Epicor Eclipse and Epicor Kinetic
    Feature
    Epicor Eclipse
    6.6
    25 Ratings
    19% below category average
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.4
    186 Ratings
    5% above category average
    Inventory tracking6.825 Ratings8.0185 Ratings
    Automatic reordering6.320 Ratings7.9111 Ratings
    Location management6.524 Ratings7.7145 Ratings
    Order Management
    Comparison of Order Management features of Epicor Eclipse and Epicor Kinetic
    Feature
    Epicor Eclipse
    7.2
    25 Ratings
    10% below category average
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.3
    189 Ratings
    4% above category average
    Pricing7.125 Ratings8.4176 Ratings
    Order entry8.425 Ratings8.3187 Ratings
    Credit card processing6.921 Ratings7.688 Ratings
    Cost of goods sold6.824 Ratings8.1165 Ratings
    Order Orchestration7.421 Ratings7.8119 Ratings
    Subledger and Financial Process
    Comparison of Subledger and Financial Process features of Epicor Eclipse and Epicor Kinetic
    Feature
    Epicor Eclipse
    7.0
    21 Ratings
    8% below category average
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.5
    161 Ratings
    12% above category average
    Billing Management7.319 Ratings7.8142 Ratings
    Cash and Asset Management7.216 Ratings7.7137 Ratings
    Travel & Expense Management5.011 Ratings7.580 Ratings
    Budgetary Control & Encumbrance Accounting5.010 Ratings7.981 Ratings
    Period Close7.219 Ratings8.2144 Ratings
    Project Financial Management
    Comparison of Project Financial Management features of Epicor Eclipse and Epicor Kinetic
    Feature
    Epicor Eclipse
    5.7
    9 Ratings
    28% below category average
    Epicor Kinetic
    9.2
    19 Ratings
    19% above category average
    Budgeting and Forecasting6.86 Ratings9.015 Ratings
    Project Costing7.26 Ratings8.016 Ratings
    Cost Capture6.26 Ratings10.017 Ratings
    Capital Project Management6.05 Ratings9.011 Ratings
    Customer Contract Compliance7.75 Ratings9.09 Ratings
    Project Revenue Recognition7.04 Ratings9.012 Ratings
    Project Execution Management
    Comparison of Project Execution Management features of Epicor Eclipse and Epicor Kinetic
    Feature
    Epicor Eclipse
    6.7
    10 Ratings
    5% below category average
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.7
    74 Ratings
    8% above category average
    Project Planning and Scheduling6.66 Ratings7.767 Ratings
    Task Insight for Project Managers7.27 Ratings7.154 Ratings
    Project Mobile Functionality7.36 Ratings7.244 Ratings
    Definable Resource Pools7.04 Ratings7.051 Ratings
    Grants Management
    Comparison of Grants Management features of Epicor Eclipse and Epicor Kinetic
    Feature
    Epicor Eclipse
    7.5
    7 Ratings
    0% above category average
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.9
    33 Ratings
    5% above category average
    Award Lifecycle Management6.16 Ratings8.529 Ratings
    Procurement
    Comparison of Procurement features of Epicor Eclipse and Epicor Kinetic
    Feature
    Epicor Eclipse
    6.3
    15 Ratings
    12% below category average
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.0
    138 Ratings
    12% above category average
    Bids Analyzed and Compared7.412 Ratings7.559 Ratings
    Contract Authoring7.17 Ratings7.456 Ratings
    Contract Repository6.28 Ratings7.758 Ratings
    Requisitions-to-Purchase Orders Integrated7.19 Ratings7.696 Ratings
    Supplier Management7.110 Ratings7.6130 Ratings
    Risk Management
    Comparison of Risk Management features of Epicor Eclipse and Epicor Kinetic
    Feature
    Epicor Eclipse
    5.9
    8 Ratings
    13% below category average
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.8
    49 Ratings
    14% above category average
    Risk Repository6.65 Ratings8.139 Ratings
    Control Management7.06 Ratings7.744 Ratings
    Control Efficiency Assessments6.64 Ratings7.440 Ratings
    Issue Detection7.25 Ratings8.545 Ratings
    Remediation and Certification6.76 Ratings7.739 Ratings
    Logistics
    Comparison of Logistics features of Epicor Eclipse and Epicor Kinetic
    Feature
    Epicor Eclipse
    5.3
    16 Ratings
    28% below category average
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.6
    103 Ratings
    8% above category average
    Transportation Planning and Optimization5.310 Ratings7.971 Ratings
    Transportation Execution Management6.211 Ratings7.965 Ratings
    Trade and Customs Management6.27 Ratings7.556 Ratings
    Fulfillment Management6.57 Ratings8.086 Ratings
    Warehouse Workforce Management6.19 Ratings7.973 Ratings
    Manufacturing
    Comparison of Manufacturing features of Epicor Eclipse and Epicor Kinetic
    Feature
    Epicor Eclipse
    6.3
    8 Ratings
    17% below category average
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.9
    148 Ratings
    5% above category average
    Production Process Design7.26 Ratings7.9119 Ratings
    Production Management7.48 Ratings8.2139 Ratings
    Configuration Management7.95 Ratings7.6106 Ratings
    Work Execution8.06 Ratings7.6109 Ratings
    Manufacturing Costs8.36 Ratings7.7132 Ratings
    Supply Chain
    Comparison of Supply Chain features of Epicor Eclipse and Epicor Kinetic
    Feature
    Epicor Eclipse
    6.2
    19 Ratings
    17% below category average
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.1
    134 Ratings
    10% above category average
    Forecasting7.116 Ratings7.1107 Ratings
    Inventory Planning7.017 Ratings7.7131 Ratings
    Performance Monitoring6.214 Ratings7.8104 Ratings
    Product Lifecycle Management
    Comparison of Product Lifecycle Management features of Epicor Eclipse and Epicor Kinetic
    Feature
    Epicor Eclipse
    6.7
    11 Ratings
    10% below category average
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.9
    67 Ratings
    7% above category average
    Proposal Management7.96 Ratings8.254 Ratings
    Product Master Data Management7.97 Ratings8.063 Ratings
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    Score9.2 out of 10
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    User Ratings
    Epicor EclipseEpicor Kinetic
    Likelihood to Recommend
    7.4
    (30 ratings)
    8.1
    (222 ratings)
    Likelihood to Renew
    4.3
    (3 ratings)
    8.8
    (2 ratings)
    Usability
    6.7
    (14 ratings)
    8.1
    (182 ratings)
    Availability
    9.1
    (1 ratings)
    -
    (0 ratings)
    Performance
    9.1
    (1 ratings)
    -
    (0 ratings)
    Support Rating
    5.5
    (1 ratings)
    7.3
    (3 ratings)
    In-Person Training
    9.1
    (1 ratings)
    -
    (0 ratings)
    Online Training
    8.2
    (1 ratings)
    -
    (0 ratings)
    Implementation Rating
    4.5
    (1 ratings)
    7.3
    (1 ratings)
    Configurability
    4.5
    (1 ratings)
    -
    (0 ratings)
    Ease of integration
    4.5
    (1 ratings)
    -
    (0 ratings)
    Product Scalability
    4.5
    (1 ratings)
    8.5
    (15 ratings)
    Vendor post-sale
    8.2
    (1 ratings)
    7.6
    (14 ratings)
    Vendor pre-sale
    7.3
    (1 ratings)
    -
    (0 ratings)
    User Testimonials
    Epicor EclipseEpicor Kinetic
    Likelihood to Recommend
    Epicor Software
    The capabilities, when combined with some of the integration offerings, make for a really nice platform. Coming from another company where we had several systems for processing inbound, outbound, e-commerce, sales, etc., it is nice to have everything contained in one system. makes communication within the company easier and teaching easier.
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    Epicor Software
    I think it depends on the industry and complexity of the company. In our situation, we primarily use Epicor for financials, in a relatively simple manner. I don't think that Epicor is the most intuitive or simple to set up for our situation. I think Epicor is better suited for its target industry of manufacturing, where building out the multiple layers let's Epicor's strengths come to bear.
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    Pros
    Epicor Software
    • The order entry process is very smooth, allowing users to see availability and immediately source unavailable items from vendors or other branches with single keystrokes or clicks. You can choose what columns of information display in order entry to help order writers make decisions.
    • A set of built-in and unlimited user-defined "queues" allow users to be pro-active - always knowing what needs to be taken care of in real time. A "Trouble" queue, for example, shows a user their orders where the available date is further out than the requested date so they can take action.
    • The RF warehouse system directs one or more pickers through the entire process of picking a customer's order and eliminates mistakes through scanning barcodes for both the shelf location and the product. The Carton Packing add-on can be used to verify quantities and products during packing, and product labels that indicate the order shipping information along with the package contents and quantities.
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    Epicor Software
    • MRP Processing, PO Suggestion processing and maintaining Inventory/Accounting cost consistency.
    • Freighting with speed and precision allows us to ship on time with over 10 shipping stations they all run seamlessly.
    • Using ECM, we've streamlined our AP Invoicing process and increased our teams throughput at least 2x with more speed projected.
    • Using Co-Parts with Advanced Production, we've increased inventory accuracy and accounting for parts cost in a more transparent way.
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    Cons
    Epicor Software
    • In my opinion, Epicor seems to want to sell add-on products constantly. They don't provide pricing at the beginning, but then rely on sticker shock and hidden costs (e.g. APIs)
    • There are times when we cannot figure out where numbers are coming from, especially costs. It would be nice if there was a way to see, in plain English, where a cost is coming from.
    • It seems unconscionable that we are unable to print financial statements to a pdf file.
    • In our experience, Support, which had been going well for a while, has become much less reliable and not very timely.
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    Epicor Software
    • In Application Studio, there are quite a few things that you just have to know in order to really get it to work right. Such as when you are updating a dataview you have to save them refresh and then go back to the wizard to get the added fields that you may have added from a BAQ.
    • When running MRP it has a tendency to stall or not finish on occasion. This is a problem as we do not get any PO Suggestions when this happens.
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    Likelihood to Renew
    Epicor Software
    For several reasons. First, they have used this system for 20 years and to change would be costly, not only for a new system but also to try and train everyone on said new system. Second, the system is ideal for our industry and very easy to learn for any new employees that come into the organization. Third, I'm fairly certain the powers that be wouldn't want to try and learn something new and deal with the usual bugs that go with implementing a new system (the special nuances that each company has that can get overlooked when they are in the process of implementing software).
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    Epicor Software
    Easy to use, reliable, known product, best product configurator, Epicor continues to offer improvements every year.
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    Usability
    Epicor Software
    Epicor Eclipse has saved our organization from financial mismanagement, which could lead to operational inefficiencies. It has streamlined purchase orders and invoice processing, reducing instances of underpayment and overpayment. It has enhanced the segmentation of financial statements by store and by day, making it easier to track profitability.
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    Epicor Software
    There is always room for improvement! I've used Great Plains ERP/MS Dynamics and Epicor my entire career. both do some things really well. Both could learn from each other. The KInetic user interface is much better than the classic windows overall. Please keep adding more functionality to the core financials!!! You need the accountants to be on your side.
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    Reliability and Availability
    Epicor Software
    I haven't experienced any outages in the two years I have been using the system. It is always available as long as the computer is up. The only time I have seen it not be available was on occasions where we lost internet, or power and then we lost access to everything, not just Epicor Eclipse.
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    Epicor Software
    No answers on this topic
    Performance
    Epicor Software
    Everything in this system moves fairly quickly, that may be in part because we are a small company with only 21 users on the system at a time, or it may just be a the way the Epicor Eclipse works for any size company with any number of users. I can only speak for what I know and say that it is fast for our purposes.
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    Epicor Software
    No answers on this topic
    Support Rating
    Epicor Software
    The tier 1 support is trying, and sometimes they are successful. Sometimes they aren't. This topic isn't as black and white as the questions might suggest. Currently their Tier 1 support team is over seas, all items automatically go to Tier 1 and then when they can't help they either escalate it or tell me they need to check with someone else and they will get back to me. If they escalate me to Tier 2, then the issue comes back to the States and the support is usually at a higher knowledge/experience level and it can get resolved fairly quickly. If they don't escalate, then it might take weeks and multiple follow ups on my part before I either get a satisfactory resolution or finally get escalated.
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    Epicor Software
    If the answer to your problem is not readily available in an answer book, your response or solution will take months, if you get one at all. Problems need to be sent to support and duplicated by them before they try to fix it. This is extremely frustrating because you have to prove to Epicor that you are having an issue. If by some miracle you get by this barrier, your problem is submitted to development for review. You can't speak to them or communicate in any way directly. This group appears to be completely unconcerned about user issues or customer service. Our experiences have been negative across the board.
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    In-Person Training
    Epicor Software
    The training classes that I have attended have been top notch. The presenters are extremely knowledgeable on their subject matter, including real-world application of the system. They aren't just software techs training end users, they seem to be end users that have become experts in the over functionality and capabilities of the system.
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    Epicor Software
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    Online Training
    Epicor Software
    The on-line training is very good, and it is taught by the same people that do the live in-person training sessions. The difficult part of it is, asking questions about your specific company's nuances or special circumstances. I don't remember if you can access the on-line training sessions after you have taken them for reminders purposes, but if so that is a great asset.
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    Epicor Software
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    Implementation Rating
    Epicor Software
    I don't really know about the implementation, it was back in 1998 and I didn't start here until 2016. By the time I started here they had been running it for a number of years and most of the people that were here when it was implemented are no longer here, and the ones that are don't really have much to say about how the implementation went either bad or good.
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    Alternatives Considered
    Epicor Software
    Most of my experience has been with Epicor's Prophet 21. For most distribution verticals, Prophet 21 is the only way to go. The comparison I've drawn is this: Prophet 21 is like a ferrari. Epicor Eclipse is like a reliable donkey. Both get you from point A to point B but Prophet 21 is going to get you there much quicker and with the kind of insight into your business that will help you thrive.
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    Epicor Software
    Most of my histories with SAP directly. I didn't really have any negative experiences. The only thing I could say is that I always had to go to somebody else to solve the problem that I can solve first person now with Epicor Kinetic.
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    Scalability
    Epicor Software
    I don't really know about the scalability. It's the same as it was when I started, I do know that you can buy more user licenses, but I think they come in packs of 5, which can be a problem if you only need 1 and will never use the other 4. But, again I'm not sure on that.
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    Epicor Software
    Using the word Scalability usually implies an increase of use, or adding the use of other features. Making the product put to good/proper use for small companies without the need for full-time support, whilst integrity is maintained it is an entirely different topic. In my view, the current company may have acquired a full truck with options, where initially a small pick-up may have been better suited.
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    Return on Investment
    Epicor Software
    • Reporting features allow tracking items trending downward which can glut inventory space and dollars if not adjusted
    • GMROI reports help analyze turn ratios and adjusted dollar values and margins of product lines.
    • Suggested Purchase Order features allowed controlled inventory purchases which avoid lost sales while managing overall dollars invested in an acquired product with the lowest freight costs possible.
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    Epicor Software
    • We have increased our lead time of orders by about a week.
    • We have increased our output of product by 10% with the same amount of staff.
    • We were able to leverage Kinetic to optimize our business while moving two facilities.
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