Fin by Intercom vs. LiveChat vs. Groove by OptimizeCX

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Fin by Intercom
Score 8.7 out of 10
N/A
Fin is Intercom’s AI Agent for customer service, designed to deliver high-quality answers, even for complex queries. It works with any helpdesk, or it can be paired with Intercom’s next-generation Helpdesk to get the full Intercom Customer Service Suite.
$0.99
one-time fee per outcome
LiveChat
Score 7.0 out of 10
Mid-Size Companies (51-1,000 employees)
LiveChat serves as a customer service platform with live chat support, help desk and web analytics functionalities, with the goal of allowing users to provide 24/7 support to customers. The core feature of the software is its chat tool, where both service and sales team can answer customers' questions in real time. Online businesses can interact with customers on their website, to be more accessible. With LiveChat, users can identify people on the website and engage…
$25
per month per user
Groove by OptimizeCX
Score 6.7 out of 10
N/A
Groove by OptimizeCX is a shared inbox for small and mid-sized SaaS teams. It’s presented as a help desk built for speed and not complexity, and is designed to help manage customer conversations across channels.
$87
per quarter per user
Pricing
Fin by IntercomLiveChatGroove by OptimizeCX
Editions & Modules
Fin with your current helpdesk
$0.99
one-time fee per outcome
Copilot add-on
$35
per month per user
Pro
$99
per month For analysis of 1,000 conversations
Fin with Intercom’s Helpdesk
from $39 + $0.99 per Fin outcome
per month per seat
Starter
$25
per month
Team
$59
per month per person
Business
$89
per month per person
Enterprise
Contact Sales
Standard
$29
per month (billed quarterly) per user
Plus
$45
per month (billed quarterly) per user
Pro
$70
per month (billed quarterly) per user
Offerings
Pricing Offerings
Fin by IntercomLiveChatGroove by OptimizeCX
Free Trial
YesYesYes
Free/Freemium Version
NoNoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional DetailsFin comes with a 90-day money-back guarantee. Here's how it works: Intercom states that users who sign up for the Fin Guarantee Success Program and do not achieve at least a resolution rate of 65% will be paid $1M. This program is designed for high volume customers. Eligibility criteria: High volume customers (over 250k monthly conversions) in North America and Europe. Intercom states that phase one of this program will admit customers on Intercom Helpdesk or Zendesk.Discount available for annual billing.
More Pricing Information
Community Pulse
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Considered Multiple Products
Fin by Intercom
Chose Fin by Intercom
Intercom was selected before I started, and I'm so glad it was. It's a clear leader in customer communication with an effortless interface. It has the same key features as LiveChat (tagging, canned responses or templates) but it's easier to use and is less stressful for …
Chose Fin by Intercom
I have used Zendesk Chat and LiveChat with my previous company and I tried to compare them with Intercom but with all the features it can provide, I can say that Intercom is much more advance and dependable. With the line of work that we have, a reliable tool is needed and this …
Chose Fin by Intercom
LiveChat was our previous solution and was so bad for us that we decided to switch - the functionalities are so basic and/or requires dev support for everything, that it was hard to maintain.
Zendesk was not a flexible enough system for us and the LiveChat support was not good …
Chose Fin by Intercom
The intercom looks cleaner, more professional, and minimal.
Chose Fin by Intercom
Intercom provides a huge range of reports, which makes it easier to work with. It also enables users to integrate it with many third-party Apps, which helps improve customer engagement.
Chose Fin by Intercom
We use this product with other products, but I enjoy using Intercom for our product as it's way more functional and easier to use than other platforms. I was not involved in the direct choice of using this platform, but I am happy with the decision as it is very easy for this …
Chose Fin by Intercom
tawk.to is better than intercom when it comes to ease of use, setup and customer support, while Intercom is better in terms of features like notification, targeted emails and database. Live Chat when compared to Intercom is again useful in terms of ease of use, setup, admin …
Chose Fin by Intercom
There are so many more features Intercom offers compared to Groove, such as product tours and chat support. It's also much easier to navigate compared to Groove. There are still similar features like email support and frequently asked questions articles. However, you can …
Chose Fin by Intercom
We selected Intercom because at the time, it was the only tool available that offered inbox functionality, help docs, and campaign features all in one product. We stayed with them for so long, despite the convoluted and expensive pricing, because it would have been equally …
Chose Fin by Intercom
I inherited Intercom but had the option to replace it. I chose not to given the success we have had and how much I enjoyed the platform
Chose Fin by Intercom
Intercom and Drift have a lot of similarities- beautiful UI, engaging customer experience with bot functionality, but Intercom has been priced more reasonably, and has better integrations. Intercom support has also been fantastic to work with.
Chose Fin by Intercom
Currently Intercom focusses on in-app messaging with a couple of add-ons such as a knowledge base. The core functionality is very good and provides an easy to use in application help service. The other systems mentioned are mostly ticketing based support, which whilst great for …
LiveChat
Chose LiveChat
Ease of setup and use is very light and delightful on LiveChat. Quality of support provided by them is amazing. Admins can easily work on newly added features and functionality. Gives almost everything I need. Pleasurable in terms of doing business with them. This software is …
Chose LiveChat
LiveChat is specifically a help desk tool and it does a good job around this niche market. Intercom tries to be a sales, help desk and marketing tool and isn't top-notch in any of these markets. LiveChat provides more support agent styled features than Intercom.
Groove by OptimizeCX
Features
Fin by IntercomLiveChatGroove by OptimizeCX
Incident and problem management
Comparison of Incident and problem management features of Product A and Product B
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Ratings
LiveChat
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Ratings
Groove by OptimizeCX
1.4
6 Ratings
142% below category average
Organize and prioritize service tickets00 Ratings00 Ratings1.26 Ratings
Expert directory00 Ratings00 Ratings1.23 Ratings
Subscription-based notifications00 Ratings00 Ratings1.03 Ratings
ITSM collaboration and documentation00 Ratings00 Ratings2.03 Ratings
Ticket creation and submission00 Ratings00 Ratings2.05 Ratings
Ticket response00 Ratings00 Ratings1.15 Ratings
Self Help Community
Comparison of Self Help Community features of Product A and Product B
Fin by Intercom
-
Ratings
LiveChat
-
Ratings
Groove by OptimizeCX
1.4
5 Ratings
141% below category average
External knowledge base00 Ratings00 Ratings1.44 Ratings
Internal knowledge base00 Ratings00 Ratings1.44 Ratings
Multi-Channel Help
Comparison of Multi-Channel Help features of Product A and Product B
Fin by Intercom
-
Ratings
LiveChat
-
Ratings
Groove by OptimizeCX
1.0
5 Ratings
156% below category average
Customer portal00 Ratings00 Ratings1.04 Ratings
Social integration00 Ratings00 Ratings1.01 Ratings
Email support00 Ratings00 Ratings1.15 Ratings
Help Desk CRM integration00 Ratings00 Ratings1.03 Ratings
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Fin by IntercomLiveChatGroove by OptimizeCX
Small Businesses
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Score 8.8 out of 10
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Score 9.5 out of 10
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Agiloft Service Desk (discontinued)
Score 9.0 out of 10
Medium-sized Companies
Piper the AI SDR by Qualified
Piper the AI SDR by Qualified
Score 9.2 out of 10
Genesys DX (discontinued)
Genesys DX (discontinued)
Score 10.0 out of 10
Agiloft Service Desk (discontinued)
Agiloft Service Desk (discontinued)
Score 9.0 out of 10
Enterprises
Conversica
Conversica
Score 4.0 out of 10
Genesys DX (discontinued)
Genesys DX (discontinued)
Score 10.0 out of 10
SysAid
SysAid
Score 8.9 out of 10
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User Ratings
Fin by IntercomLiveChatGroove by OptimizeCX
Likelihood to Recommend
8.7
(383 ratings)
8.0
(44 ratings)
1.6
(7 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
10.0
(21 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Usability
8.7
(294 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
6.0
(1 ratings)
Availability
9.1
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Performance
9.1
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Support Rating
5.7
(10 ratings)
7.3
(3 ratings)
3.0
(1 ratings)
Online Training
7.4
(2 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Implementation Rating
6.6
(5 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Product Scalability
9.1
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
User Testimonials
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Likelihood to Recommend
Intercom
FIN is great if you need someone to direct the customers based on their problems. You also have the option to use multiple languages if you have a worldwide customer base, so that's great. If you provide enough documentation to feed it, FIN can also solve tickets on its own, which enables your team to focus on other tasks. You can also have him handle conversations in other applications, such as Discord or Slack, and have them create ticket issues in JIRA if your team uses it.
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We needed a mechanism in place to make contact with visitors to our website easier. What we discovered is that it's an excellent tool for creating reports and dashboards that show how soon issues are handled. Our website can now be updated in real-time, and all of our internal teams are really excited to use this fantastic technology. I really recommend [LiveChat] to many friends and past colleagues.
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OptimizeCX
Groove is great for people who are wanting to provide accountability and organization for teams across your business. It is suited well for an organization that has many email requests coming in every day, because you can assign tickets to specific team members. It would not be suited for an organization that utilizes more phone support, than email support
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Pros
Intercom
  • It is very easy to train
  • It does a great job of recommending answers when little context is given.
  • I love the ability to create a snippet to address issues in the moment or in the long term, based on FAQs.
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  • The most important factor of Livechat is their own chat support, I had many requirement from the Sales Head, Support Head to implement features that I was unsure if the product could do. However, as I did the implementation one by one I constantly used the chat support which helped me step by step all the way.
  • The UX of the product is pretty simple and intuitive to use. There are quite a few features that we could easily plug and play. We tried going to the market to find a solution that could help us but they did not have as many out of the box features and simple to use
  • Their integration between LiveChat and Chatbot is pretty seamless and since both of them are from the same company, it's works pretty well.
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OptimizeCX
  • Creates Tickets when someone emails in or you can create a ticket within the groove system.
  • They have great reports on response times and the average amount of time it took for a ticket to close. You can even see individuals average response times as well as specific teams.
  • We use their Knowledge Base which is a great tool for creating FAQ and sending people to that.
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Cons
Intercom
  • It seems some users really struggle to figure out how to escalate to a human (especially through email).
  • Not excited about how "soft" resolutions still count as resolutions and are paid for. Though some abandoned cases appear to be able to be concluded as "the user got the answer they needed", there are others where they clearly didn't, because they just open up another chat (or even more), trying to get more info. This pads the resolution stats and makes it seem more effective than it actually is.
  • Cost -- Fin is quite expensive. It helps us with scaling coverage, but we're not really saving money.
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  • It has a limited amount of agents, so when you have many customer care employees during one shift it is hard to manage the quantity of active agents.
  • When system is overloaded and many customers are waiting in a queue it starts to works slowly (sometimes the program even lags) and you need to refresh the system to write a message.
  • Occasionally when you open a new tab, you might lose your current conversation.
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OptimizeCX
  • Better Follow-up by customer success team
  • More customization within their major features to fit both, large and small sales teams, alike
  • Their site goes down fairly often
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Likelihood to Renew
Intercom
We have been and will be continuing our journey with Intercom and nothing too concerning has happened that I have experienced or heard of that has us on the edge yet. If it ever happens it will be something along the lines of "Outgrowing" the use of need of the platform.
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OptimizeCX
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Usability
Intercom
The core experience is solid but the key friction across our team is that there are so many new features for improving Fin are being launched. Content improvements, guidance settings, recommendations, trends, and monitors are each useful in isolation, but they sit across separate areas of the platform with no clear starting point. The recurring feedback from my team is that it is hard to know where to focus. A consolidated "Improve Fin" section could really improve the experience, the ideal option would be a training page where our team could improve Fin in one place, ideally by answering questions and Fin would then be able to add those details in the right place, where it's creating new guidance or building procedures. I feel that would make uptake a lot quicker.
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OptimizeCX
It's well organized, but slow.
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Reliability and Availability
Intercom
always there
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OptimizeCX
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Performance
Intercom
works perfect
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OptimizeCX
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Support Rating
Intercom
Intercom is the premier customer support/engagement model and it definitely has one of the top tier customer support teams as well. I don't think I have ever waited more than 5 minutes to get the information I need or get help with an issue. They are incredible and I aim to model our customer service department after them.
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The only issues I have had with LiveChat are the technical glitches within the program. These are not common as in everyday occurrences but when the glitches do happen they tend to have very negative repercussions. This is due to chats with customers being dropped, this may be an internal server issue though and may not happen for everyone.
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OptimizeCX
I'm giving them a 3 for the really great support they gave for general questions. They also have a good knowledge base. I'm giving them only a 3 though because of my last customer service when I need a billing resolution. I was very disappointed in how they handled that. I also find it very bad practice to send out ONE email notice that they were raising my rate three times as much at the end of the month. When I was with Desk.com, I had numerous emails over months letting me know their billing plans were changing. Even worse than refusing to refund me the difference was that they just stopped responding to me.
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Online Training
Intercom
Easy to know the learning path
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OptimizeCX
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Implementation Rating
Intercom
The implementation was surprisingly easy but we are having to adapt from our old process to work well with Intercom.
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OptimizeCX
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Alternatives Considered
Intercom
Although we have not utilised a specific chat box like Fin before in other websites, we have used ChatGPT and Claude within our general work. Our Product and Engineering team make use of Devin within Azure Dev Ops to support with their work. However, Fin is the most suitable for what our Support Team requires as this can be integrated into our chat with customers.
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Overall very similar in design, but LiveChat had a better interface, better reporting and analytic tools, better mobile support, and just an easier overall feel. The two products are very much alike in the vast majority of ways, but I ended up preferring this product overall. Price points were similar as well, as well as the allowed number of users.
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OptimizeCX
We also use Trello for project management. I have used both systems and we like Groove because it allows for our clients to contact us via email. They do not have to go to a ticket submission page, they can just email us directly and it will create a ticket. Groove also provides analytics on how long it takes to respond to tickets
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Return on Investment
Intercom
  • New role opportunities — Using the “Fin-first” approach has reduced the workload for our Tier 1 team, giving them more time to focus on their own career growth. It’s also opened the door to a dedicated, AI-focused role, where a team member regularly reviews Fin’s answers and makes updates to help it perform even better.
  • Enabling Fin has also reduced our response time and allowed us to meet SLA's.
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  • We have a small team so the overall impact is that it is easy for one or two employees to handle a large number of tickets without hiring more people. Plus, you can use this software remotely, save a ton on traveling to and from and office.
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OptimizeCX
  • We wasted a lot of time setting up the product before we discovered a lot of features listed on the website aren't ready for public use
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ScreenShots

Fin by Intercom Screenshots

Screenshot of Fin, delivering conversational support experience to customers.Screenshot of where to monitor, analyze, and optimize Fin by spotting trends, filling content gaps, and fixing quality issues topic by topic.Screenshot of where to customize Fin's tone of voice, teach it support knowledge and policies, and configure how it handles complex tasks in over 45 languages.Screenshot of where to test answers, review the sources and settings that shape them, and get tailored recommendations to optimize performance.Screenshot of Fin, as it appears across email and live chat to phone, SMS, and social. Fin can answer any question, across any channel, any time.

LiveChat Screenshots

Screenshot of Chat Widget and Agent AppScreenshot of Customer detailsScreenshot of Traffic sectionScreenshot of ReportsScreenshot of Team managementScreenshot of Chat Widget customization