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    ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price

    GoldMine CRM (discontinued)

    Score7.7 out of 10
    N/AGoldMine CRM was is a Customer Relationship Management (CRM) solutions for small businesses boasting at its peak over 1 millions users across verticals, a CRM solution for businesses running Windows, available for the Cloud, Mobile and on premise. The product was acquired by Ivanti, and currently is no longer available as a standalone application.

    $65

    per month per user

    Agentforce Sales

    Score8.8 out of 10
    N/ASalesforce' Agentforce Sales (formerly Salesforce Sales Cloud) is the company's flagship CRM platform. The AI CRM for Sales features data built right in.

    $25

    per month

    Pricing
    GoldMine CRM (discontinued)Agentforce Sales
    Editions & Modules
    Cloud Based
    $65
    per month per user
    On-Premise - multi-user
    $1,992
    one-time fee 3 shared users (includes 1 year of support)
    Starter
    $25.00
    per month per user
    Professional
    $80.00
    per month per user
    Enterprise
    $165.00
    per month per user
    Unlimited
    $330.00
    per month per user
    Agentforce 1 Sales
    $550
    per month per user
    Offerings
    Pricing Offerings
    GoldMine CRM (discontinued)Agentforce Sales
    Free Trial
    NoYes
    Free/Freemium Version
    NoNo
    Premium Consulting/Integration Services
    NoNo
    Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeOptional
    Additional Details——
    More Pricing Information
    Community Pulse
    GoldMine CRM (discontinued)Agentforce Sales
    Considered Both Products
    Discontinued Products
    Chose GoldMine CRM (discontinued)
    I have used Salesforce CRM, NetSuite CRM+ and Zoho CRM. I would say Goldmine is a much better tool than NetSuite, but the features of Salesforce and Zoho make it much better tool than Goldmine.
    Incentivized
    Salesforce
    Chose Agentforce Sales
    No contest. Salesforce is by far the most user-friendly and powerful CRM I have ever used. It is general enough to cover all kinds of use cases, but also has specific packages and tools to narrow down to your specific use case and make it relevant to your industry or function. …
    Incentivized
    Chose Agentforce Sales
    Compared to GoldMine, the contrast is night and day. GoldMine is good and simple but extremely limiting in what it can do and doesn't work well across as many functions. Salesforce effortlessly provides strong tools for all roles within our organization allowing them a view and …
    Incentivized
    Chose Agentforce Sales
    I've used Goldmine and evaluated Microsoft CRM and Sugar. Sugar reminds me of Salesforce lite. It has many of the core CRM features but not the extensive functionality. Microsoft has great integration with Office products, so there's some workflow benefits there. Goldmine is …
    Chose Agentforce Sales
    Zoho crm
    Sugar crm
    Goldmine (back in the day!)
    Key User Insights
    Would buy again
    100%
    Would buy again
    6 Answers
    91%
    Would buy again
    209 Answers
    Delivers good value for the price
    100%
    Delivers good value for the price
    6 Answers
    94%
    Delivers good value for the price
    179 Answers
    Happy with the feature set
    100%
    Happy with the feature set
    6 Answers
    94%
    Happy with the feature set
    216 Answers
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    100%
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    5 Answers
    91%
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    143 Answers
    Implementation went as expected
    100%
    Implementation went as expected
    6 Answers
    81%
    Implementation went as expected
    125 Answers
    Features
    GoldMine CRM (discontinued)Agentforce Sales
    Sales Force Automation
    Comparison of Sales Force Automation features of GoldMine CRM (discontinued) and Salesforce Agentforce Sales
    Feature
    GoldMine CRM (discontinued)
    -
    Ratings
    Salesforce Agentforce Sales
    8.2
    268 Ratings
    5% above category average
    Customer data management / contact management00 Ratings8.6268 Ratings
    Workflow management00 Ratings8.6258 Ratings
    Territory management00 Ratings7.5211 Ratings
    Opportunity management00 Ratings9.0258 Ratings
    Integration with email client (e.g., Outlook or Gmail)00 Ratings7.7243 Ratings
    Contract management00 Ratings8.0214 Ratings
    Quote & order management00 Ratings7.6197 Ratings
    Interaction tracking00 Ratings8.9228 Ratings
    Channel / partner relationship management00 Ratings8.0190 Ratings
    Customer Service & Support
    Comparison of Customer Service & Support features of GoldMine CRM (discontinued) and Salesforce Agentforce Sales
    Feature
    GoldMine CRM (discontinued)
    -
    Ratings
    Salesforce Agentforce Sales
    7.7
    104 Ratings
    0% above category average
    Case management00 Ratings8.3102 Ratings
    Call center management00 Ratings7.782 Ratings
    Help desk management00 Ratings7.286 Ratings
    Marketing Automation
    Comparison of Marketing Automation features of GoldMine CRM (discontinued) and Salesforce Agentforce Sales
    Feature
    GoldMine CRM (discontinued)
    -
    Ratings
    Salesforce Agentforce Sales
    7.8
    243 Ratings
    1% above category average
    Lead management00 Ratings7.8238 Ratings
    Email marketing00 Ratings7.9205 Ratings
    CRM Project Management
    Comparison of CRM Project Management features of GoldMine CRM (discontinued) and Salesforce Agentforce Sales
    Feature
    GoldMine CRM (discontinued)
    -
    Ratings
    Salesforce Agentforce Sales
    8.0
    247 Ratings
    4% above category average
    Task management00 Ratings8.3235 Ratings
    Billing and invoicing management00 Ratings7.078 Ratings
    Reporting00 Ratings8.7200 Ratings
    CRM Reporting & Analytics
    Comparison of CRM Reporting & Analytics features of GoldMine CRM (discontinued) and Salesforce Agentforce Sales
    Feature
    GoldMine CRM (discontinued)
    -
    Ratings
    Salesforce Agentforce Sales
    8.3
    260 Ratings
    8% above category average
    Forecasting00 Ratings7.8228 Ratings
    Pipeline visualization00 Ratings8.5247 Ratings
    Customizable reports00 Ratings8.7257 Ratings
    Customization
    Comparison of Customization features of GoldMine CRM (discontinued) and Salesforce Agentforce Sales
    Feature
    GoldMine CRM (discontinued)
    -
    Ratings
    Salesforce Agentforce Sales
    8.4
    251 Ratings
    9% above category average
    Custom fields00 Ratings9.0248 Ratings
    Custom objects00 Ratings8.7238 Ratings
    Scripting environment00 Ratings7.6175 Ratings
    API for custom integration00 Ratings8.5209 Ratings
    Security
    Comparison of Security features of GoldMine CRM (discontinued) and Salesforce Agentforce Sales
    Feature
    GoldMine CRM (discontinued)
    -
    Ratings
    Salesforce Agentforce Sales
    9.0
    282 Ratings
    7% above category average
    Single sign-on capability00 Ratings9.0220 Ratings
    Role-based user permissions00 Ratings9.0254 Ratings
    Social CRM
    Comparison of Social CRM features of GoldMine CRM (discontinued) and Salesforce Agentforce Sales
    Feature
    GoldMine CRM (discontinued)
    -
    Ratings
    Salesforce Agentforce Sales
    7.6
    160 Ratings
    1% above category average
    Social data00 Ratings8.0158 Ratings
    Social engagement00 Ratings7.3156 Ratings
    Integrations with 3rd-party Software
    Comparison of Integrations with 3rd-party Software features of GoldMine CRM (discontinued) and Salesforce Agentforce Sales
    Feature
    GoldMine CRM (discontinued)
    -
    Ratings
    Salesforce Agentforce Sales
    7.9
    216 Ratings
    5% above category average
    Marketing automation00 Ratings7.9212 Ratings
    Compensation management00 Ratings7.9146 Ratings
    Platform
    Comparison of Platform features of GoldMine CRM (discontinued) and Salesforce Agentforce Sales
    Feature
    GoldMine CRM (discontinued)
    -
    Ratings
    Salesforce Agentforce Sales
    8.3
    231 Ratings
    9% above category average
    Mobile access00 Ratings8.3231 Ratings
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    GoldMine CRM (discontinued)Agentforce Sales
    Small Businesses
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    Score10 out of 10
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    Score10 out of 10
    Medium-sized Companies
    Kintone
    Score9.7 out of 10
    Kintone
    Score9.7 out of 10
    Enterprises
    Oracle Sales
    Score8.9 out of 10
    Oracle Sales
    Score8.9 out of 10
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    User Ratings
    GoldMine CRM (discontinued)Agentforce Sales
    Likelihood to Recommend
    3.0
    (14 ratings)
    8.9
    (470 ratings)
    Likelihood to Renew
    4.6
    (3 ratings)
    9.1
    (61 ratings)
    Usability
    8.0
    (1 ratings)
    8.4
    (166 ratings)
    Availability
    10.0
    (1 ratings)
    9.0
    (29 ratings)
    Performance
    7.0
    (2 ratings)
    8.0
    (20 ratings)
    Support Rating
    7.8
    (4 ratings)
    9.0
    (98 ratings)
    In-Person Training
    10.0
    (1 ratings)
    8.0
    (12 ratings)
    Online Training
    -
    (0 ratings)
    9.1
    (15 ratings)
    Implementation Rating
    9.0
    (1 ratings)
    9.0
    (19 ratings)
    Configurability
    8.0
    (1 ratings)
    9.0
    (4 ratings)
    Contract Terms and Pricing Model
    -
    (0 ratings)
    8.8
    (9 ratings)
    Data Sharing and Collaboration
    -
    (0 ratings)
    8.2
    (5 ratings)
    Data Sources
    -
    (0 ratings)
    8.2
    (5 ratings)
    Ease of integration
    -
    (0 ratings)
    9.0
    (2 ratings)
    Product Scalability
    9.0
    (1 ratings)
    8.9
    (85 ratings)
    Professional Services
    -
    (0 ratings)
    9.3
    (8 ratings)
    Vendor post-sale
    -
    (0 ratings)
    8.0
    (1 ratings)
    Vendor pre-sale
    -
    (0 ratings)
    8.0
    (1 ratings)
    User Testimonials
    GoldMine CRM (discontinued)Agentforce Sales
    Likelihood to Recommend
    Discontinued Products
    I believe GoldMine is well suited to keep track of customer contact automatically, so your customers needs are met. I also like keeping track of my emails and customer contact notes, this way I always know what they need quickly. I like to keep reminders on certain customer request or pricing for certain items. We use GoldMine in unison with Traverse for placing orders . I would love GoldMine more if they had the abilities to place orders through the app , rather than using an additional tool.
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    Salesforce
    Obviously, for any business, there are two main areas to focus on — the sales path and the service path. Sales Cloud wouldn’t be suited for a company that’s primarily into support services. For those kinds of companies, Salesforce has a different product — Service Cloud. So, for anyone in the support or service space, Sales Cloud isn’t the right fit.
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    Pros
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    • Flexibility to use different views of the data very easily and establish functional views by user or department requirement.
    • Ability to categorize contacts by group(s) or actually have them in separate databases.
    • As much or as little automation as you wish to implement.
    • We implemented Goldmine ourselves after making sure the Server Operating System was configured appropriately.
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    Salesforce
    • The customizations - We have an organization that operates differently from most companies, so we’ve had to implement quite a few customizations — and Salesforce allows us to do that quite quickly. Most of the time, delays come from dependencies on other internal parties rather than the system itself.
    • From my perspective as a consultant, one of the biggest advantages is that everything is in Salesforce — all the details, all in one place. The ability to customize it easily is a big plus; there’s really a lot you can do with it.
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    Cons
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    • Of course, there are always areas that could be improved, in my view the Report generation tool, hasn't really changed in the last 10 years at least, whilst other CRM products have more powerful and easy to use and customise Reporting tools, although there are plenty of Reports to choose from
    • The Database schema has stood the test of time but is quite restrictive in certain areas and what you can do with it
    • Integration with other system unless you are a developer is not easy as there are only one or two areas to show/bring in information
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    Salesforce
    • We still need to include the production part. We started using Salesforce to sell the seeds — our inventory is in SAP — and from there we handle sales and track the process of planting, harvesting, selling, and then collecting payments. But we don’t yet manage the earlier production processes, like production planning. We handle allocation, but not full production planning, and that’s an area where we still have room for improvement.
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    Likelihood to Renew
    Discontinued Products
    If there were a product that would mean less on-site support/maintenance with comparable or not much more cost, I would seriously consider switching. Furthermore, going to a more mobile, paper-less application process would tip the scales in the favor of a competitor. I'd also like something that integrates web forms so that data entry is more stream-lined as is response time
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    Salesforce
    There are days when I wish we hadn't switched, but I know that if we put in the time, we will get to where we want to be with the software and that it has many more capabilities than anything else we looked at. However, the amount of time and onboarding we need to do is also far greater than we realized/were told when we originally bought the product. They told us we should hire onboarding support, but at the end, after we had already reached our budget maximum for this, so it's been slower than we had hoped.
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    Usability
    Discontinued Products
    Personally, perhaps I should give it a higher rating, but I do genuinely think it was very easy to pick up and run with, but I did have a full training session and of course was keen on using it. In my previous marketing role many years ago, I 'd tried to create an MS Access database and this has taken ages, so being introduced to the power of GoldMine really impressed. People have comments on it, but my opinion is its still fast and a great workhorse
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    Salesforce
    Because I think it could be easier. We have different standards today since we’re used to interacting with consumer apps like Starbucks, where all you do is scan your card. Then, when you use Sales Cloud, there are still a lot of manual inputs. So my mission with AI is really about figuring out how to make that easier.
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    Reliability and Availability
    Discontinued Products
    For me, its always been there, no worries here about downtime or the internet being down or switched off. Having it on a laptop as well with Goldsync means I'm always able to updated my notes and then synchronise. This to me is one of the benefits of purchased on-premise software, it cant simply be turned off!.
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    Salesforce
    Salesforce is always available securely from any internet-capable device anywhere in the world, UNLESS you choose to set security measures so that ONLY trusted IP ranges may access the system at certain times of the day. It's all about choice and flexibility with Salesforce products.
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    Performance
    Discontinued Products
    Pretty good, Yes, there are occasions when i may think there should be an easier way to do things, but over the years, I've always found a way to get the information out that i want, sometimes just needing a bit of help from the technical team. Day to day,. it works for me very well.
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    Salesforce
    Salesforce performance in general is excellent. "The cloud infrastructure beneath Force.com has been fine-tuned over the past 10 years. It powers nearly 100,000+ businesses running more than 185,000 applications that 3 million users count on every day."
    Points per Salesforce -
    1) Multitenant kernel - With a multitenant platform, each business that uses the app doesn’t have its own copy. Instead, all businesses share a single copy and then customize it for their specific needs.
    2) ISO 27001 certified security - You can’t compromise when it comes to enterprise-level security. Force.com is road-tested and trusted by nearly 100,000+ companies, including many of the world’s most security-conscious organizations, such as banks and health care providers.
    3) Proven reliability - All Force.com apps run on world-class data centers with backup, failover, and disaster-recovery facilities. Force.com has had a proven 99.9 percent uptime record for years.
    4) Proven, real-time scalability - Force.com is used by many of the world's largest enterprises, including Cisco, Japan Post Network, and Symantec. Applications can automatically scale from a few users to millions of page views, as needed.
    5) Real-time query optimizer - You need fast access to your data. The Force.com query optimizer delivers under 300ms response time, at a massive scale.
    6) Real-time transparent system status - You can always see real-time system performance, availability, and security information at trust.salesforce.com.
    7) Real-time upgrades - Unlike traditional software platforms, our upgrades never break your customizations, code, or integrations. We upgrade the platform for you 3 to 4 times each year. As a result, you’re always on the latest version, with access to the latest features, performance, and security enhancements.
    8) Real-time sandbox environments - With a single click, you can create copies of your applications, configuration, and data in separate environments for development, testing, and training.
    9) Three global production data centers and disaster recovery - Force.com runs on three geographically dispersed, mirrored data centers with built-in replication, disaster recovery, a redundant network backbone, and no single points of failure
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    Support Rating
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    Their customer support is spot on! We never feel like we're being made to wait, and when we email, they respond and offer assistance very quickly. It's the same response I'd expect from an in-house IT team down the corridor. Some support teams you know you're talking to the first line support chap who probably doesn't know how to resolve your issue, and you have to wait until they give up and pass it, but GM support people seem very knowledgable
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    Salesforce
    The overall support has been good. More and more features are being released quite frequently. Very small features are also making big difference in how the tool can be adapted and used better. If there is anything we need or are stuck, the support team sets up a call and helps in resolving the issue/provides workarounds.
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    In-Person Training
    Discontinued Products
    I was originally trained by the UK distributor and then subsequently trained my self and had access to GoldMine consultants. In the long run, this saved me a lot of time really since I knew the product on an advanced/administrator basis and able to perform day to day tasks. Some things, still needed the consultants. The trick was with the training, I knew when I was out of my depth
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    Salesforce
    I attended two training sessions. I would rate them a 4 as an advanced user. It was very basic – great for someone new – would give 8+ for new person.

    I had 3 years of experience at the time. I skipped basic and went onto advanced and still not helpful. A lot of it was best practices that didn’t feel relevant for our business
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    Online Training
    Discontinued Products
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    Salesforce
    I have gone through multiple. The content that’s delivered is quite basic – I wish they had more advanced training.

    We are grandfathered into premium support plus training. We get unlimited access to instructor led and online training for free. We have taken advantage of this
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    Implementation Rating
    Discontinued Products
    As I said earlier, to me now with all this experience, it is ensuring that you focus on two things:- 1/ Ensure core customisations only are required until you get users started and embedded in using the system. 2/ Ensuring users get some good level of dedicated training time, internal or external, but I feel this is best done in a group rather than at your own speed. Afterall, no one really customises their MS Word or MS Excel each time, they just ignore the bits they don't need or ask if they do need them
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    Salesforce
    Just from an organizational standpoint - we standardized our data prior to moving to Salesforce. But we essentially standardized it wrong. That's created a big disgusting mess for us know that I'll have to deal with as the Admin. Be sure you think through use cases prior to doing something like that - seek outside opinions on how the data will work best, especially depending on what else you're going to integrate with Salesforce.
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    Alternatives Considered
    Discontinued Products
    GoldMine is a better overall product based on scalability, ease of use and cost effectiveness. All of the customization in GoldMine was beyond the other applications we tested and considered. Overall we believe we made the right choice based on how quickly we saw results. Our sales staff has used this tool extensively to become more agile.
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    Salesforce
    So I've evaluated, implemented Microsoft Dynamics in the past. I've used Oracle CRM solutions. I've used Daylight, which is a very niche CRM system the last couple of years. And I've evaluated a variety from Legacy Microsoft Ones to Zoho and Sugar when making implementation decisions at other companies. But usually I've gone with Salesforce. I'd say it's better than most. The only one that I generally prefer, and last time I chose an implementation from scratch, I did Microsoft Dynamics. And the reason is for small mid-size organization, Microsoft Dynamics, if you already have Microsoft Office products, it's much better integrated to all of the Excel, Word, OneNote, Outlook email than what you get from Salesforce. And so that's the only one that if someone's a Microsoft organization and small sized company, it'll save a lot of integration things, a lot of security, a lot of login and access and IT management by just sticking within the Microsoft ecosystem. But outside of that, if you don't use Microsoft or if you're a large organization or have other needs that you want, Salesforce I'd say is better than all of the other CRM offerings out there. It's the easiest to use and the most robust and the most vendors and products for the ecosystem.
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    Contract Terms and Pricing Model
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    No answers on this topic
    Salesforce
    Salesforce is the most widely used CRM system. Professionalism tends to increase when things go wrong for market leaders. Salesforce considers us as users because they own the market. Having all of our data in one place and all of our teams working within Salesforce. Anyone who uses Salesforce is impacted by it, even if they don't.
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    Scalability
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    GoldMine, when maintained well has always been pretty reliable and in over 10 years, I don't think we've ever lost a day or more than an hour or so when we cant use it. Occasional a 'blip' will happen and you will have to log out, the only thing to bear in mind, which I'm not good at is ensuring you keep the mailbox to less than 2000 mails in your inbound box, I hover around 1800 and need to streamline this to get rid of my junk or notifications from LinkedIn groups for example when i mean to read, but never get round to it
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    Salesforce
    It's very scalable as it has a ton of features (but you do need an admin who understands how to leverage these features). Because of the various features, we've also needed to host onboarding sessions with our users so that they can familiarize themselves with the platform, which isn't always super user-friendly or intuitive.
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    Professional Services
    Discontinued Products
    No answers on this topic
    Salesforce
    Using Salesforce.com has made my daily routines more efficient and simplified the manual tasks I had to perform independently. I can now access data from any device, online or offline, and provide better guidance to my team about the forecasts provided by the built-in artificial intelligence (AI). A chat with a Salesforce support specialist would be great. The knowledge base has a community forum where Salesforce users can ask questions and learn more about the product.
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    Return on Investment
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    • Our company prides itself on its responsiveness to customer requests. As a consequence of that, we need to be able to follow up consistently on issues until they are solved and goldmine helps us do that.
    • Because of its ease of use and wealth of information, it allows us to react to customer queries quickly and with a familiarity that instills confidence in our customers.
    • The lag on the other hand, since we have kind of choked it with too much information, slows us down. I understand we're using it for more than it was designed for, but as businesses grow and customer demands increase we need our technology to improve at the same rate.
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    Salesforce
    • It allows me to keep a close eye on all of my performance metrics through the Dashboard Reporting, ie what my sales pipeline looks like, how much it's changed in the last 60 days, new opportunities created in the last 7 days, # of emails sent for the week, etc. The ease of the design and output make it really easy to check my progress throughout the day to find where I have holes and am falling short on my personal and work goals. It's resulted in greater transparency with my Mgmt Team and shorter 1-on-1 mtgs with my boss as he can see exactly where I am at all times (to be fair, I'm a senior sales rep, so he pretty much lets me do my job completely unfettered), but it does prove that I am continually producing which recently resulted in a raise I didn't even ask for.
    • The SF repository is so detailed that I don't have to spend tons of time finding frequently used websites attached to a client or see what all interactions with the company look like. Even though I don't use SF for my bulk emails and email sequences, SF provides me with an email to use in the bcc of these emails which links everything back to SF. I find that extremely helpful. This really impacts my efficiency and I can honestly say that once I started using all the functionality of data management, it saved me about 20% of my time/week that I could then allocate towards other revenue-generating tasks like prospecting and account management. The more time I have for those, the better. My year-over-year on accounts 1 year and older just grew by 17% this last year.
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