8x8 Work vs. HCL Sametime

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
8x8 Work
Score 8.6 out of 10
N/A
8x8 Work is a collaboration hub for phone, video, and messaging. It brings secure unified communication and collaboration experiences to every employee.
$24
per month
HCL Sametime
Score 8.0 out of 10
N/A
HCL Sametime (formerly IBM Lotus Sametime, acquired by HCL Technologies from IBM in 2018) is an enterprise-level unified communications and VoIP platform. It includes features such as instant messaging, web conferencing, voice and video integration, telephony capabilities, and presence information.N/A
Pricing
8x8 WorkHCL Sametime
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
8x8 WorkHCL Sametime
Free Trial
NoNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional Details
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8x8 WorkHCL Sametime
Features
8x8 WorkHCL Sametime
Cloud PBX
Comparison of Cloud PBX features of Product A and Product B
8x8 Work
8.5
484 Ratings
1% above category average
HCL Sametime
8.4
7 Ratings
6% above category average
Hosted PBX8.8265 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Multi-level Interactive Voice Response (IVR)8.6129 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Directory of employee names8.5444 Ratings8.07 Ratings
User templates00 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Call reports00 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Call Management
Comparison of Call Management features of Product A and Product B
8x8 Work
8.6
537 Ratings
1% above category average
HCL Sametime
8.0
8 Ratings
3% below category average
Answering rules8.7490 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Call recording8.6414 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Call park8.6388 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Call screening8.5375 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Message alerts8.7470 Ratings8.06 Ratings
Mobile apps
Comparison of Mobile apps features of Product A and Product B
8x8 Work
9.2
471 Ratings
5% above category average
HCL Sametime
8.0
8 Ratings
2% above category average
Mobile app for iOS9.2397 Ratings8.08 Ratings
Mobile app for Android9.1304 Ratings8.07 Ratings
VoIP system collaboration
Comparison of VoIP system collaboration features of Product A and Product B
8x8 Work
-
Ratings
HCL Sametime
8.0
6 Ratings
1% above category average
Video conferencing00 Ratings8.06 Ratings
Audio conferencing00 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Video screen sharing00 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Instant messaging00 Ratings8.01 Ratings
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User Ratings
8x8 WorkHCL Sametime
Likelihood to Recommend
8.6
(558 ratings)
7.0
(10 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
9.9
(40 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Usability
8.7
(203 ratings)
8.6
(2 ratings)
Availability
8.9
(14 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Performance
8.5
(14 ratings)
9.0
(1 ratings)
Support Rating
8.8
(152 ratings)
8.3
(4 ratings)
In-Person Training
9.1
(4 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Online Training
9.1
(4 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Implementation Rating
10.0
(18 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Configurability
8.2
(12 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Contract Terms and Pricing Model
8.2
(10 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Ease of integration
8.2
(8 ratings)
9.0
(1 ratings)
Product Scalability
8.4
(14 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Professional Services
9.1
(8 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Vendor post-sale
8.0
(12 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Vendor pre-sale
8.5
(13 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
User Testimonials
8x8 WorkHCL Sametime
Likelihood to Recommend
8x8 Inc.
It's worked great as a general use phone system when it is working, issues seem very particular and odd when working to solve them and it seems like many issues that reoccur are hidden behind settings that only 8x8 Work can control, support is very responsive and knowledgeable, it's genuinely an easy product to work with and simple enough for any admin to work in, when it works it works well
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HCL Technologies
Sametime is well suited for very quick conversations, where you know the person is an active Sametime user. It also serves as an easy way to reach out to someone you may not know when looking for an answer to a quick question, as they are likely to be a Sametime user. Do not, under any circumstances, attempt to use Sametime for Audio or Video chat. The quality and reliability are horrendous.
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Pros
8x8 Inc.
  • 8x8 Work manages roles and permissions well. It is very simple to create permission groups needed for certain roles that may even overlap teams needs.
  • User management is fairly simple and straight forward.
  • Analytics reporting is good quality for the higher tier licenses
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HCL Technologies
  • Sametime's web-based interfaces are "zero load", requiring no plug-ins to be installed to join a meeting, launch a meeting, or use chat in a browser. A plugin is required only if you want to share your screen.
  • Integration with IBM Notes is very tight. Sametime's chat status can change according to your Notes calendar. You can easily see if someone who just emailed you is available to chat. Your chat History is right inside Notes as well.
  • IBM's mobile apps are top notch. We automated the apps for our users thanks to IBM's work with third party MDMs. This made it very simple for us to deploy the Sametime mobile apps -- Chat and Meetings -- and get new capabilities such as Audio & Video mobilized quickly.
  • No down time, ever. The rock solid WebSphere back-end of Sametime means the environment is always up. Period.
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Cons
8x8 Inc.
  • Customer support do not respond properly if you are facing any compliance issue.
  • If any person in the organisation misbehaves with a customer and the customer raises a complaint to the concerned team, they suspend the organisation's entire
  • account without any warning.
  • Rarely we face voice disturbance.
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HCL Technologies
  • Not convenient for a large group meeting.
  • Very basic tool for internal communication only not available for third party communication
  • Very basic and limited mobile app features.
  • High speed connection is needed to connect to Sametime
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Likelihood to Renew
8x8 Inc.
All our employees love this product. No one has ever had an issue, whether it be the phone or fax. Great during the winter when employees have to work from home because of the snow. Never had an issue with the phone app. Highly recommend this product
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HCL Technologies
Sametime is now an embedded experience for our users. They know it, they like it, they use it, and they expect it to be wherever they are. Because it is pretty easy to use and NEVER goes down, users know they can rely on it and won't be frustrated by it. Sametime is right up with there with Microsoft Office in terms of user adoption and appreciation.
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Usability
8x8 Inc.
As mentioned before, I really like that it lets me talk to multiple people at once. Not many services allow up to 4 calls; usually, it's two at most. Plus, the call records are impeccable. There are no complaints there. As I said, I just wish there were call transcriptions, as the companies that use 8X8, I imagine, receive many calls, and humans can only remember a certain number of details. A transcription would be helpful.
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HCL Technologies
Just about everything works the way you expect it would and it's relatively easy for users to figure out. Sametime was one of those things that we started with only a few people as a "test" and before the test period was done we discovered a few hundred people had figured out how to log in and most got it working all on their own. Many of our users want to use Sametime and do so regularly; we do not have to create policies enforcing its usage. Users find it practical to use Sametime to do things like chat, transfer files, share their screen, and so forth.
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Reliability and Availability
8x8 Inc.
The 8x8 product is absolutely the best when it comes to this! I have had zero application errors or unplanned outages allowing me the opportunity to provide a constant source of reliable customer service to my members. I know this is something I can count on. Unlike the internet, it is subject to go down without warning
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HCL Technologies
Typically if Sametime is not available, it's because Windows Updates were done on the servers and they were not rebooted. However, that's not a problem with Sametime -- in fact, if you have Linux you could probably run Sametime for years without any hiccups whatsoever. We have no internal Linux expertise.
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Performance
8x8 Inc.
No problems with performance, Pages load as they should. I can't answer on the reports side as only a handful of our Admins ( call center ) currently use that side of the software. It does intergrate very well with Office for meetings and conferences. Sometimes there is a slight lag or static when users are talking, but we found this to be a cause of a users computer had not restarted in a while, Once the user restarts thier computer the problem is resolved, So this is not an issue with 8x8
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HCL Technologies
Generally very good. Occasionally AV or screen-sharing will stutter and every now and then I hear of it dropping out altogether, but in all cases it was easy to re-establish
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Support Rating
8x8 Inc.
We are a USA based organization. Support was refreshingly quick (callback via phone or email, online live agents). Agents are knowledgeable, thorough in their explanations, and extremely patient when dealing with end-users at various levels of the ICT knowledge spectrum.
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HCL Technologies
I have not needed to use the Sametime support team. Our local support team was able to configure it for me.
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In-Person Training
8x8 Inc.
The representative that arrived was very prompt and knowledgeable about the product and able to provide understandable instruction for how everything worked and what to be expected by us when using the product. They did not make me feel rushed or like they were ready to get the training over with
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HCL Technologies
No answers on this topic
Online Training
8x8 Inc.
online (video) training is good. No issues.
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HCL Technologies
No answers on this topic
Implementation Rating
8x8 Inc.
The implementation of 8x8 X was rather smooth. We had training prior to getting the system. The IT company did a good job on the training. The whole system is wonderful. Saves me so much time with the faxing, as i can just let it go by itself and not have to make sure pages don't get skipped, as with a regular fax machine.
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HCL Technologies
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Alternatives Considered
8x8 Inc.
The customer support is not good on Zoom. They do not know about their product. When we ask something about a Zoom feature, customer support takes time and denied for that feature but those features available in Zoom and we have to find out those features by Google and logs. 8x8 Work is the best in the market.
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HCL Technologies
We use Jabber globally in our company and Symphony (no relevant app in able list) in some of the teams as well. All these are instant messenger tools, but Sametime is the easiest one to be used and its chat history is easy to be searched. Sametime can be used to contact almost all internal staff as it’s included in default computer package. Symphony is used to chat with front end business while Jabber is used for call.
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Contract Terms and Pricing Model
8x8 Inc.
At this time, we’re very happy with the pricing model that we have worked out and they have provided for us. Just be sure to do your homework, and use your comparisons to work out your cost with 8x8. They will be very straightforward with you on what they can
adjust for you.
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HCL Technologies
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Scalability
8x8 Inc.
The only issue was adding licences was not via a button click but through your account admin which seems bad practice in a SaaS world as the user should be able to sign up, amend and close their account with ease
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HCL Technologies
Sametime is rock solid. It runs on WebSphere, DB2 and other related IBM technologies. This does mean the back-end is highly complex and very difficult to learn and get comfortable with, however.
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Professional Services
8x8 Inc.
PS had all the users etc. set up by our go-live date. All hard phones were activated and when we received them, all we had to do was set them up and punch in the activation code to activate them.
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HCL Technologies
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Return on Investment
8x8 Inc.
  • Efficiency to be on the road and still have our calls well-managed.
  • Whether on the road or in the office, the incoming caller always assumes we are at our desks and in touch.
  • The ability to change our outgoing messages to suit immediate needs is simple.
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HCL Technologies
  • Sametime keeps many of our team members in contact throughout the day which leads to increased productivity which makes everyone happy.
  • We use the team chat room feature every day. This allows a team to stay focused on the task without any extra messages that are not on topic.
  • The split between IBM Sametime, Slack and Google Hangouts has caused some issues when team members are not checking for messages on a certain app.
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