8x8 Work vs. HCL Sametime

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
8x8 Work
Score 8.5 out of 10
N/A
8x8 Work is a collaboration hub for phone, video, and messaging. It brings secure unified communication and collaboration experiences to every employee.
$24
per month
HCL Sametime
Score 8.0 out of 10
N/A
HCL Sametime (formerly IBM Lotus Sametime, acquired by HCL Technologies from IBM in 2018) is an enterprise-level unified communications and VoIP platform. It includes features such as instant messaging, web conferencing, voice and video integration, telephony capabilities, and presence information.N/A
Pricing
8x8 WorkHCL Sametime
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
8x8 WorkHCL Sametime
Free Trial
NoNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional Details
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8x8 WorkHCL Sametime
Features
8x8 WorkHCL Sametime
Cloud PBX
Comparison of Cloud PBX features of Product A and Product B
8x8 Work
8.5
460 Ratings
2% above category average
HCL Sametime
8.4
7 Ratings
5% above category average
Hosted PBX8.9248 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Multi-level Interactive Voice Response (IVR)8.7112 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Directory of employee names8.6419 Ratings8.07 Ratings
User templates00 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Call reports00 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Call Management
Comparison of Call Management features of Product A and Product B
8x8 Work
8.6
512 Ratings
2% above category average
HCL Sametime
8.0
8 Ratings
5% below category average
Answering rules8.8464 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Call recording8.7396 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Call park8.6366 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Call screening8.5352 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Message alerts8.6446 Ratings8.06 Ratings
Mobile apps
Comparison of Mobile apps features of Product A and Product B
8x8 Work
9.0
448 Ratings
6% above category average
HCL Sametime
8.0
8 Ratings
0% above category average
Mobile app for iOS9.1377 Ratings8.08 Ratings
Mobile app for Android8.8289 Ratings8.07 Ratings
VoIP system collaboration
Comparison of VoIP system collaboration features of Product A and Product B
8x8 Work
-
Ratings
HCL Sametime
8.0
6 Ratings
0% above category average
Video conferencing00 Ratings8.06 Ratings
Audio conferencing00 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Video screen sharing00 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Instant messaging00 Ratings8.01 Ratings
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User Ratings
8x8 WorkHCL Sametime
Likelihood to Recommend
8.5
(531 ratings)
7.0
(10 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
9.8
(38 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Usability
8.7
(175 ratings)
8.6
(2 ratings)
Availability
8.7
(13 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Performance
8.3
(13 ratings)
9.0
(1 ratings)
Support Rating
9.1
(147 ratings)
8.3
(4 ratings)
In-Person Training
9.1
(3 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Online Training
9.0
(4 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Implementation Rating
10.0
(17 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Configurability
7.9
(11 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Contract Terms and Pricing Model
8.3
(10 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Ease of integration
8.3
(8 ratings)
9.0
(1 ratings)
Product Scalability
8.3
(13 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Professional Services
8.7
(7 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Vendor post-sale
8.8
(10 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Vendor pre-sale
8.8
(10 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
User Testimonials
8x8 WorkHCL Sametime
Likelihood to Recommend
8x8 Inc.
I believe that 8x8 Work is well-suited for any organization, whether it employs 1-2 users or thousands. It is so easy to deploy and use. We are mainly a MS Teams house, and we want our Users to use this for Meetings and Chats. The fact that 8x8 has the flexibility to disable this within the client, so that it forces our users to continue working in Teams for meetings and chats, and then use the phone element in 8x8 Work, is brilliant. Our company finds it extremely easy to use, and the fact that we have different departments using it, with each department having the ability to change their outbound CLI to reflect the area of the business they are calling from, is excellent.
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HCL Technologies
Sametime is well suited for very quick conversations, where you know the person is an active Sametime user. It also serves as an easy way to reach out to someone you may not know when looking for an answer to a quick question, as they are likely to be a Sametime user. Do not, under any circumstances, attempt to use Sametime for Audio or Video chat. The quality and reliability are horrendous.
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Pros
8x8 Inc.
  • 8x8 Work manages roles and permissions well. It is very simple to create permission groups needed for certain roles that may even overlap teams needs.
  • User management is fairly simple and straight forward.
  • Analytics reporting is good quality for the higher tier licenses
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HCL Technologies
  • Sametime's web-based interfaces are "zero load", requiring no plug-ins to be installed to join a meeting, launch a meeting, or use chat in a browser. A plugin is required only if you want to share your screen.
  • Integration with IBM Notes is very tight. Sametime's chat status can change according to your Notes calendar. You can easily see if someone who just emailed you is available to chat. Your chat History is right inside Notes as well.
  • IBM's mobile apps are top notch. We automated the apps for our users thanks to IBM's work with third party MDMs. This made it very simple for us to deploy the Sametime mobile apps -- Chat and Meetings -- and get new capabilities such as Audio & Video mobilized quickly.
  • No down time, ever. The rock solid WebSphere back-end of Sametime means the environment is always up. Period.
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Cons
8x8 Inc.
  • The auto attendant has built in text-to-speech, but this same engine should be put to use for individual and ring group voicemail messages.
  • Call forwarding in the mobile app should be relocated for easier access. Instead it's buried somewhere under the generic "account settings"
  • The default user template disables voicemail text transcription. Why???
  • One fax number should be accessible by app for more than 1 user. Responsibility for faxes is usually distributed among a few people in a typical small office setting.
  • Ability to receive and send SMS messages from a shared "main company number" would be awesome. Ability to assign this to certain users would rock!
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HCL Technologies
  • Not convenient for a large group meeting.
  • Very basic tool for internal communication only not available for third party communication
  • Very basic and limited mobile app features.
  • High speed connection is needed to connect to Sametime
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Likelihood to Renew
8x8 Inc.
All our employees love this product. No one has ever had an issue, whether it be the phone or fax. Great during the winter when employees have to work from home because of the snow. Never had an issue with the phone app. Highly recommend this product
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HCL Technologies
Sametime is now an embedded experience for our users. They know it, they like it, they use it, and they expect it to be wherever they are. Because it is pretty easy to use and NEVER goes down, users know they can rely on it and won't be frustrated by it. Sametime is right up with there with Microsoft Office in terms of user adoption and appreciation.
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Usability
8x8 Inc.
I'm not using it to its full capacity like a Zoom or teams Workspace. I use the service for phone calls, hate application on my cellphone and the voicemail apparatus. This we like because it gives us the feel of a large firm when we aren't.
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HCL Technologies
Just about everything works the way you expect it would and it's relatively easy for users to figure out. Sametime was one of those things that we started with only a few people as a "test" and before the test period was done we discovered a few hundred people had figured out how to log in and most got it working all on their own. Many of our users want to use Sametime and do so regularly; we do not have to create policies enforcing its usage. Users find it practical to use Sametime to do things like chat, transfer files, share their screen, and so forth.
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Reliability and Availability
8x8 Inc.
As mentioned before, we have not had an outage with the phone system per say, There was an issue with the call center where we did have an outage, but it was quickly and promplty handled by 8x8 support, they got us up and going again within 24 hours. The 8x8 hard phone and softphone side of things have been rock solid, I couldn't ask for anything more seeing we are in health care and it's exactly what we were looking for. When and if there is an issue 99% of the time it's user error
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HCL Technologies
Typically if Sametime is not available, it's because Windows Updates were done on the servers and they were not rebooted. However, that's not a problem with Sametime -- in fact, if you have Linux you could probably run Sametime for years without any hiccups whatsoever. We have no internal Linux expertise.
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Performance
8x8 Inc.
None of the features that are available slow down the application. The reports (even the ones with hundreds of records) complete very quickly and the web interface as well as the mobile application never struggle to load or complete a task. The analytics will sometimes take some time to reflect the online status of users but it is to be expected due to connection speeds.
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HCL Technologies
Generally very good. Occasionally AV or screen-sharing will stutter and every now and then I hear of it dropping out altogether, but in all cases it was easy to re-establish
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Support Rating
8x8 Inc.
We are a USA based organization. Support was refreshingly quick (callback via phone or email, online live agents). Agents are knowledgeable, thorough in their explanations, and extremely patient when dealing with end-users at various levels of the ICT knowledge spectrum.
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HCL Technologies
I have not needed to use the Sametime support team. Our local support team was able to configure it for me.
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In-Person Training
8x8 Inc.
The person giving the training was very engaged, He also listened and answered all the questions. He created a video for our company while he was training in case we needed to reference it again in the future. The questions he could not answer were answered within 24 hours via an email to the IT support staff here so we could share the answers with the rest of the group
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HCL Technologies
No answers on this topic
Online Training
8x8 Inc.
online (video) training is good. No issues.
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HCL Technologies
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Implementation Rating
8x8 Inc.
The implementation of 8x8 X was rather smooth. We had training prior to getting the system. The IT company did a good job on the training. The whole system is wonderful. Saves me so much time with the faxing, as i can just let it go by itself and not have to make sure pages don't get skipped, as with a regular fax machine.
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HCL Technologies
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Alternatives Considered
8x8 Inc.
I prefer 8x8 Work; it has the right number of features and modes for the communication I need. I much prefer 8x8 Work meetings to zoom meetings, as it is much, much easier to transition between devices when I am on the road. 8x8 Work is also easier to manage across multiple modes of communication.
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HCL Technologies
We use Jabber globally in our company and Symphony (no relevant app in able list) in some of the teams as well. All these are instant messenger tools, but Sametime is the easiest one to be used and its chat history is easy to be searched. Sametime can be used to contact almost all internal staff as it’s included in default computer package. Symphony is used to chat with front end business while Jabber is used for call.
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Contract Terms and Pricing Model
8x8 Inc.
At this time, we’re very happy with the pricing model that we have worked out and they have provided for us. Just be sure to do your homework, and use your comparisons to work out your cost with 8x8. They will be very straightforward with you on what they can
adjust for you.
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HCL Technologies
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Scalability
8x8 Inc.
The only issue was adding licences was not via a button click but through your account admin which seems bad practice in a SaaS world as the user should be able to sign up, amend and close their account with ease
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HCL Technologies
Sametime is rock solid. It runs on WebSphere, DB2 and other related IBM technologies. This does mean the back-end is highly complex and very difficult to learn and get comfortable with, however.
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Professional Services
8x8 Inc.
PS had all the users etc. set up by our go-live date. All hard phones were activated and when we received them, all we had to do was set them up and punch in the activation code to activate them.
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HCL Technologies
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Return on Investment
8x8 Inc.
  • Getting access to emergency voicemails left on our office lines when we are at home, on the weekend, or after hours.
  • Texting clients from a dedicated office line portal, keep things private and organized.
  • The ease of installation and helpful support when needed significantly limit the time wasted.
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HCL Technologies
  • Sametime keeps many of our team members in contact throughout the day which leads to increased productivity which makes everyone happy.
  • We use the team chat room feature every day. This allows a team to stay focused on the task without any extra messages that are not on topic.
  • The split between IBM Sametime, Slack and Google Hangouts has caused some issues when team members are not checking for messages on a certain app.
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