Fiorano ESB vs. Workday Business Process Framework

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Fiorano ESB
Score 2.0 out of 10
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Workday Business Process Framework
Score 7.7 out of 10
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Workday acquired ESB vendor Cape Clear in 2008 so as to offer integration as a service.N/A
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Free Trial
NoNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
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Small Businesses

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Medium-sized Companies
Anypoint Platform
Anypoint Platform
Score 8.1 out of 10
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Score 8.1 out of 10
Enterprises
Anypoint Platform
Anypoint Platform
Score 8.1 out of 10
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Score 8.1 out of 10
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User Ratings
Fiorano ESBWorkday Business Process Framework
Likelihood to Recommend
2.0
(1 ratings)
6.1
(3 ratings)
Support Rating
-
(0 ratings)
7.4
(2 ratings)
User Testimonials
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Likelihood to Recommend
Fiorano Software
Fiorano would be a good choice for small-medium businesses that need integration capabilities with clients but don't want to carry the burden of an in-house development team. The software can be used by technical non-developers and the organization offers professional services to get you off the ground. For larger organizations that have an in-house development team and a wealth of internal resources, other "enterprise grade" middleware/ESB solutions may be more applicable.
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Workday
Workday is great for HR processes. All my HR stakeholders love Workday. We tried to use Workday for the business processes of procurement and finance, but we found many issues to customize the processes to the way my company needs. Moreover, the consulting service to implement the processes is also very expansive.
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Pros
Fiorano Software
  • Fioranio's underlying design is very good. In the event of a sudden shutdown, it would - in theory - be able to recover messages that were in-flight.
  • The visual design surface is very appealing and provides a very quick and easy way to decipher data flows. It has a definite advantage over traditional develop and document processes where documentation tends to be out of date. With Fiorano, the flow is already visualized in a relatively easy to understand way.
  • One thing that Fiorano had over some competitors was connections into our AS400 data queues. Not all middleware solutions have that - which is a boon for organizations that still run an iSeries in the back-end.
  • The support people are generally very well educated and easy to get a hold of if you have a support agreement in place.
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Workday
  • Ability to customize, add objects, delete objects for users or roles if defined.
  • Able to share report definitions across users.
  • Sharing amongst the Workday community and ability to suggest BP delivered reporting from Workday directly.
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Cons
Fiorano Software
  • Fiorano scalability was a problem for us - specifically we were told about a limit of the number of components that could be run on a single server. This was not explained during the pre-sales and is a serious limitation of the platform.
  • Some of the components in Fiorano are just poorly implemented. For instance, we used the FTP component to download a large multi-GB file. Apparently, that component requires equal RAM to file size. So, if you download a 10GB file, you'll need at least 10GB of RAM to do so.
  • Stability was also problematic for us - some of the components or entire data flows would suddenly stop for no reason. At time they coudln't even be restarted and we were forced to restart the Fiorano service. Not an ideal situation to be in for mission critical data flows.
  • Consistency is a problem for the components in Fiorano. There are wide ranges of design variations in the UI between components. Even in the same component, it could be the case that you'd have to switch back to the "old" component UI to view certain important settings. This made development more difficult.
  • 3rd party support doesn't exist - perhaps it isn't popular enough? There isn't a community supporting Fiorano which means that problems require you to go to a support person.
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Workday
  • Support hotline to call in for problems can be frustrating
  • Trying to log in outside of your employer network can be like jumping through too many hoops.
  • Forgotten passwords can be difficult to recover.
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Support Rating
Fiorano Software
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Workday
Not only can we receive dedicated support from Workday, but the Workday user community is a powerful tool to troubleshoot BP errors, brainstorm, and to dive deeper on a topic of interest.
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Alternatives Considered
Fiorano Software
We are evaluating options such as Apache Nifi as a possible replacement for our Fiorano data flows. We've also used PilotFish technologies that has been able to fit the same use cases as Fiorano (minus the visual component). Generally the products mentioned above excelled in areas of stability and through-put compared to Fiorano, but none have been able to consolidate our ESB components into a single platform.
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Workday
Workday has more features that fit my company's needs.
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Return on Investment
Fiorano Software
  • Fiorano added another piece of complexity to our ESB solution but has not pulled its weight as far as ROI. As we started ramping up on the product, it continued to show it's short-comings and we are working now to ramp it down. Overall, it has not been a positive experience.
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Workday
  • It's easy for employees to find answers on their own without having to speak with multiple departments.
  • It ensures that there usually are no errors made when punching in and out.
  • If there is a glitch with the system then it can cause a problem for an entire company which is something to consider.
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