athenaIDX vs. Certinia ERP Cloud

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
athenaIDX
Score 1.4 out of 10
N/A
athenaIDX is an on-premise or cloud-hosted enterprise RCM solution that helps health systems, hospitals, billing services, and large practices optimize financial performance and successfully adapt to healthcare payment reform. It is based on the Centricity medical practice and EMR software that was formerly owned and supported by GE Healthcare acquired by Veritas Capital in 2018, spun off into a new entity (Virence Health), and then rebranded as a product of athenahealth (also a Veritas…N/A
Certinia ERP Cloud
Score 7.8 out of 10
N/A
Certinia ERP Cloud automates financial management on the Salesforce platform. The customer-centric ERP software includes a general ledger, automated billing processes, and financial intelligence.N/A
Pricing
athenaIDXCertinia ERP Cloud
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
athenaIDXCertinia ERP Cloud
Free Trial
NoYes
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional Details
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Features
athenaIDXCertinia ERP Cloud
Payroll Management
Comparison of Payroll Management features of Product A and Product B
athenaIDX
-
Ratings
Certinia ERP Cloud
8.4
2 Ratings
15% above category average
Pay calculation00 Ratings8.52 Ratings
Benefit plan administration00 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Direct deposit files00 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Customization
Comparison of Customization features of Product A and Product B
athenaIDX
-
Ratings
Certinia ERP Cloud
8.4
4 Ratings
14% above category average
API for custom integration00 Ratings8.84 Ratings
Plug-ins00 Ratings8.03 Ratings
Security
Comparison of Security features of Product A and Product B
athenaIDX
-
Ratings
Certinia ERP Cloud
8.4
5 Ratings
3% above category average
Single sign-on capability00 Ratings8.65 Ratings
Role-based user permissions00 Ratings8.15 Ratings
Reporting & Analytics
Comparison of Reporting & Analytics features of Product A and Product B
athenaIDX
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Ratings
Certinia ERP Cloud
7.9
5 Ratings
12% above category average
Dashboards00 Ratings8.45 Ratings
Standard reports00 Ratings6.55 Ratings
Custom reports00 Ratings8.85 Ratings
General Ledger and Configurable Accounting
Comparison of General Ledger and Configurable Accounting features of Product A and Product B
athenaIDX
-
Ratings
Certinia ERP Cloud
7.9
6 Ratings
3% above category average
Accounts payable00 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Accounts receivable00 Ratings7.14 Ratings
Global Financial Support00 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Primary and Secondary Ledgers00 Ratings7.01 Ratings
Journals and Reconciliations00 Ratings6.33 Ratings
Configurable Accounting00 Ratings7.43 Ratings
Standardized Processes00 Ratings8.73 Ratings
Inventory Management
Comparison of Inventory Management features of Product A and Product B
athenaIDX
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Ratings
Certinia ERP Cloud
10.0
3 Ratings
24% above category average
Inventory tracking00 Ratings10.03 Ratings
Automatic reordering00 Ratings10.03 Ratings
Location management00 Ratings10.03 Ratings
Order Management
Comparison of Order Management features of Product A and Product B
athenaIDX
-
Ratings
Certinia ERP Cloud
8.1
2 Ratings
4% above category average
Pricing00 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Order entry00 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Credit card processing00 Ratings8.52 Ratings
Cost of goods sold00 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Subledger and Financial Process
Comparison of Subledger and Financial Process features of Product A and Product B
athenaIDX
-
Ratings
Certinia ERP Cloud
8.7
1 Ratings
16% above category average
Travel & Expense Management00 Ratings10.01 Ratings
Budgetary Control & Encumbrance Accounting00 Ratings7.01 Ratings
Project Financial Management
Comparison of Project Financial Management features of Product A and Product B
athenaIDX
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Ratings
Certinia ERP Cloud
9.3
1 Ratings
20% above category average
Budgeting and Forecasting00 Ratings9.01 Ratings
Project Costing00 Ratings9.01 Ratings
Cost Capture00 Ratings10.01 Ratings
Capital Project Management00 Ratings9.01 Ratings
Customer Contract Compliance00 Ratings10.01 Ratings
Project Revenue Recognition00 Ratings10.01 Ratings
Project Execution Management
Comparison of Project Execution Management features of Product A and Product B
athenaIDX
-
Ratings
Certinia ERP Cloud
8.2
1 Ratings
18% above category average
Project Planning and Scheduling00 Ratings7.01 Ratings
Task Insight for Project Managers00 Ratings7.01 Ratings
Project Mobile Functionality00 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Definable Resource Pools00 Ratings8.01 Ratings
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athenaIDXCertinia ERP Cloud
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Score 7.0 out of 10
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Score 8.8 out of 10
Medium-sized Companies
CareLogic EHR
CareLogic EHR
Score 10.0 out of 10
Infor VISUAL
Infor VISUAL
Score 7.1 out of 10
Enterprises

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Score 7.4 out of 10
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User Ratings
athenaIDXCertinia ERP Cloud
Likelihood to Recommend
1.4
(10 ratings)
6.0
(8 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
-
(0 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Usability
-
(0 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Availability
-
(0 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Performance
-
(0 ratings)
9.0
(1 ratings)
Support Rating
-
(0 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Online Training
1.0
(1 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Implementation Rating
-
(0 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Configurability
1.0
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Contract Terms and Pricing Model
1.0
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Professional Services
1.0
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Vendor post-sale
1.0
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
User Testimonials
athenaIDXCertinia ERP Cloud
Likelihood to Recommend
athenahealth
I couldn't recommend IDX to anyone. Most of the reviews on this site appear to be for the program that broke off from Athena IDX, Centricity Practice Solutions (CPS). CPS is a much more capable program managed by Unlimited Systems (a separate company) that should NOT be confused with Athena IDX (managed by Athena Health). It's possible that Athena IDX was usable in the 90s compared to other peer programs at that time, but there are so, so many better, modern solutions available now for far less money. This software is priced at the enterprise level with a level of quality that is below budget tier with an ancient feature set to boot.
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Certinia
For accounting systems, users and/or evaluators often want to see some type of matrix or "heads up" comparisons of specific features and functionality of a system in key areas such as: 1) General Ledger 2) Order to Cash cycle 3) Purchase to Pay cycle 4) Cash management 5) Inventory and/or Cost Accounting (Projects/Jobs, etc) 6) Revenue Recognition 7) Fixed Assets management 8) Budgets 9) Tax 10) Reports and Analysis It would be great if this kind of matrix existed to be filled in by reviewers so that others could benefit from their perspectives about the applications and how they address or handle the specific features/functionality. With respect to FinancialForce, the company has found that nearly all the key features it needed were available from the application.
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Pros
athenahealth
  • One of the best things about Centricity is it is flexible. We are able to add a data point behind a term (CPS calls this an observation term) and track any data needed. These observation terms also allow us to pull information forward and display information needed to make a good decision or used to decrease errors. For example in our history forms given to the patients one of the questions is side of injury. This affected side displays on our EMR forms which helps providers and prevents mistakes.
  • CPS integrates with other programs. We are paperless and use DocuSign to send each patient their history, ROS and all new paperwork. This allows us to import the history into the forms and has saved us from adding extra staff (FTEs) to room and take history. The history form can be completed at home or in the waiting room. Each section has a observation term behind it and allows it to be placed into the note at the correct section. Since we have a fully integrated product we do not have to have another program to enter or transfer our charges from the EMR to the PM side of the program.
  • Our notes look great! We did a lot of customization which gave us the detail and look we wanted. It seems like a lot of work at first, but the outcome has so much efficacy. We increased our providers without having to increase our staffing and it is due to he efficiencies we gained by using the EMR.
  • One other note, Centricity is flexible but that means it is complicated. You can not have flexibility without it be complicated don't let that stop you the end results can be great.
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Certinia
  • User interface is more modern and user-friendly than other software
  • Dashboards allow for good visual interpretation
  • Reports are able to be customized to better fit users' needs
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Cons
athenahealth
  • Statements print only current open accounts, would be nice to print a total statement for patients so they can see if payments are split between open and closed/zeroed out accounts
  • Ability to create custom reports
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Certinia
  • Since SalesForce was not made with accounting in mind, building FinancialForce as a module on top of SalesForce gives problems because the overarching architect of SalesForce cannot facilitate all the accounting requirements.
  • The FinancialForce integration team was not very good, and did not help us set up our FinancialForce very well. Their customer support is also lacking and takes a long time to respond and troubleshoot our problems.
  • FinancialForce doesn't actually build financial statement reports. We were only able to run a trial balance, and we had to build the statements ourselves in Excel.
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Likelihood to Renew
athenahealth
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Certinia
The company has now converted its legacy, "home grown" operations system and built it on the force.com platform, and the integration between it and FinancialForce is deeply entrenched. No other application would be able to replicate this functionality, and the company will be able to scale and leverage the force.com platform as it grows.
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Usability
athenahealth
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Certinia
Change management is always an issue, but the evidence of the application's usability is that both long-time employees (used to the legacy systems for many years) and newer employees have been able to learn the system and improve their business processes.
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Reliability and Availability
athenahealth
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Certinia
Unless the internet is completely unavailable - which has not happened yet - the application is always accessible. Since FinancialForce is built on the force.com platform, it's uptime is tied to Salesforce security and system performance standards
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Performance
athenahealth
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Certinia
If Visualforce pages are enabled, they sometimes slow down the load time.
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Support Rating
athenahealth
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Certinia
The response time for FinancialForce is exemplary. Immediate acknowledgement of the support request by automatically logging a case/ticket on the provider side, then less than 24-hour follow up by a support team member with specific questions, information or resolution for the issue.
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Online Training
athenahealth
Training consists of overly specific points with no general process considerations. Trainers will regularly go 'into the weeds' on pointless edge cases while the meat of the training still needs to be addressed.
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Certinia
Through its Xtra login website available to its customers, FinancialForce offers a complete set of online, video tutorials, training and documentation. Each tutorial is "bite-sized", meaning it imparts instructional, step-by-step information in 2-3 minute narrated videos. For a particular cycle or process, like invoices to payments for example, each tutorial builds on the last so that the user can get a complete picture of the steps and process in less than 10 minutes.
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Implementation Rating
athenahealth
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Certinia
The company decided to run parallel for three months in order to soften the impact of the change from the legacy "system" - which users had been interfacing with for over a decade - to FinancialForce. While not recommended, this did provide time for the in-house "super user" team of 2 people to become completely familiar with the application, and thus provide hands-on training and be a resource for the users who would be processing the daily accounting transactions.
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Alternatives Considered
athenahealth
Athena IDX is more reliable than other platforms. It rarely has latency challenges where it has to be intermittently shut down or updated. It is accessible on multiple devices and overall, easy to use and navigate.
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Certinia
FinancialForce Subscription & Usage Billing has more features, more useability, and manages higher numbers of customers. The systems I have used in the past are easier to navigate but couldn't handle this number of customers.
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Contract Terms and Pricing Model
athenahealth
The pricing structure is outlandish for how old and feature poor this program is.
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Certinia
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Professional Services
athenahealth
Zero ownership. Zero responsibility. Zero desire to build something good.
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Certinia
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Return on Investment
athenahealth
  • Extremely expensive software for the limited feature set. We're talking millions of dollars with off hours support (anything outside of 8-6EST) that starts at $1200 for the first hour and $300 for each hour afterwards.
  • Multitasking isn't a thing unless you assign more licenses (thereby increasing your costs). Users can quite literally only have one IDX window open at a time unless you assign more licenses. This slows down everyone as there are plenty of times where examining different parts of a patient's profile is useful.
  • Reporting has been nearly impossible as we use modern reporting software. IDX's analytics site is firmly stuck in the 1990s and lacks decades of innovation present in something like Power BI.
  • Nickel and diming philosophy. A limited API server costs ~$10k/month. Setting up a new facility in IDX costs you and requires a 4 month lead time. Many more instances of this.
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Certinia
  • Beneficial to easily be able to track impact of fluctuating currencies.
  • Integration with Salesforce.com reduced/elimintated manual entry which saves various colleagues time.
  • Increased visibility over the entire sales cycle because of the integration between Salesforce.com & FinancialForce Accounting.
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