Epicor Eclipse vs. Infor M3

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Epicor Eclipse
Score 8.9 out of 10
N/A
Epicor Eclipse is an end-to-end business system for wholesale distributors, as well as electrical, HVAC, plumbing and PVF businesses.N/A
Infor M3
Score 6.6 out of 10
N/A
Infor M3 is designed for medium to large global manufacturers, distributors, and after-sales service providers—delivering flexibility to manage mixed-mode and complex value chains. M3 is designed with industry-specific functionality and flexible deployment options, and presents a multi-company, multi-country, and multi-site enterprise resource planning (ERP) cloud solution platform. M3 was originally developed by Intentia, which merged with Lawson (2005), and which in turn was acquired by…N/A
Pricing
Epicor EclipseInfor M3
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
Epicor EclipseInfor M3
Free Trial
NoNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional Details
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Features
Epicor EclipseInfor M3
Payroll Management
Comparison of Payroll Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
8.5
3 Ratings
16% above category average
Infor M3
8.6
4 Ratings
18% above category average
Pay calculation10.01 Ratings9.04 Ratings
Benefit plan administration9.01 Ratings9.04 Ratings
Direct deposit files8.73 Ratings8.04 Ratings
Customization
Comparison of Customization features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
7.2
9 Ratings
1% below category average
Infor M3
8.0
4 Ratings
10% above category average
API for custom integration7.87 Ratings8.04 Ratings
Plug-ins6.79 Ratings8.04 Ratings
Security
Comparison of Security features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
7.8
14 Ratings
4% below category average
Infor M3
8.0
4 Ratings
2% below category average
Single sign-on capability8.09 Ratings8.04 Ratings
Role-based user permissions7.514 Ratings8.04 Ratings
Reporting & Analytics
Comparison of Reporting & Analytics features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
6.6
16 Ratings
5% below category average
Infor M3
8.7
6 Ratings
22% above category average
Dashboards6.711 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Standard reports6.416 Ratings9.06 Ratings
Custom reports6.916 Ratings9.06 Ratings
General Ledger and Configurable Accounting
Comparison of General Ledger and Configurable Accounting features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
7.2
15 Ratings
6% below category average
Infor M3
8.4
6 Ratings
10% above category average
Accounts payable6.915 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Accounts receivable6.813 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Global Financial Support7.17 Ratings9.04 Ratings
Primary and Secondary Ledgers7.26 Ratings9.04 Ratings
Journals and Reconciliations7.310 Ratings8.03 Ratings
Configurable Accounting8.38 Ratings8.04 Ratings
Standardized Processes6.710 Ratings9.04 Ratings
Inventory Management
Comparison of Inventory Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
7.1
17 Ratings
10% below category average
Infor M3
8.8
2 Ratings
11% above category average
Inventory tracking7.417 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Automatic reordering6.715 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Location management7.717 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Order Management
Comparison of Order Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
7.4
17 Ratings
5% below category average
Infor M3
8.6
2 Ratings
10% above category average
Pricing7.317 Ratings8.92 Ratings
Order entry7.717 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Credit card processing8.014 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Cost of goods sold7.816 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Order Orchestration7.413 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Subledger and Financial Process
Comparison of Subledger and Financial Process features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
7.2
13 Ratings
3% below category average
Infor M3
8.1
4 Ratings
9% above category average
Billing Management6.911 Ratings7.03 Ratings
Cash and Asset Management7.48 Ratings8.94 Ratings
Travel & Expense Management7.36 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Budgetary Control & Encumbrance Accounting6.15 Ratings8.93 Ratings
Period Close7.511 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Project Financial Management
Comparison of Project Financial Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
5.7
9 Ratings
29% below category average
Infor M3
8.4
2 Ratings
10% above category average
Budgeting and Forecasting6.86 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Project Costing7.26 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Cost Capture6.26 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Capital Project Management6.05 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Customer Contract Compliance7.75 Ratings9.01 Ratings
Project Revenue Recognition7.04 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Project Execution Management
Comparison of Project Execution Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
6.4
6 Ratings
7% below category average
Infor M3
8.3
2 Ratings
19% above category average
Project Planning and Scheduling6.63 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Task Insight for Project Managers5.73 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Project Mobile Functionality6.42 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Definable Resource Pools00 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Grants Management
Comparison of Grants Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
8.0
2 Ratings
6% above category average
Infor M3
8.3
2 Ratings
9% above category average
Award Lifecycle Management8.01 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Procurement
Comparison of Procurement features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
6.1
9 Ratings
13% below category average
Infor M3
8.4
2 Ratings
19% above category average
Bids Analyzed and Compared5.16 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Contract Authoring6.82 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Contract Repository4.83 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Requisitions-to-Purchase Orders Integrated6.94 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Supplier Management6.84 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Risk Management
Comparison of Risk Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
4.5
4 Ratings
37% below category average
Infor M3
8.7
2 Ratings
29% above category average
Risk Repository2.72 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Control Management6.22 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Control Efficiency Assessments4.51 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Issue Detection4.12 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Remediation and Certification3.82 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Logistics
Comparison of Logistics features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
4.9
11 Ratings
33% below category average
Infor M3
8.3
2 Ratings
19% above category average
Transportation Planning and Optimization4.36 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Transportation Execution Management4.26 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Trade and Customs Management4.12 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Fulfillment Management6.32 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Warehouse Workforce Management6.34 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Manufacturing
Comparison of Manufacturing features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
5.0
3 Ratings
40% below category average
Infor M3
8.7
2 Ratings
14% above category average
Production Process Design4.52 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Production Management5.73 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Configuration Management6.41 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Work Execution5.43 Ratings8.92 Ratings
Manufacturing Costs4.83 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Supply Chain
Comparison of Supply Chain features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
5.7
13 Ratings
24% below category average
Infor M3
9.0
2 Ratings
22% above category average
Forecasting6.112 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Inventory Planning6.611 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Performance Monitoring5.69 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Product Lifecycle Management
Comparison of Product Lifecycle Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
6.2
7 Ratings
16% below category average
Infor M3
7.9
2 Ratings
9% above category average
Proposal Management5.93 Ratings7.12 Ratings
Product Master Data Management6.43 Ratings7.02 Ratings
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User Ratings
Epicor EclipseInfor M3
Likelihood to Recommend
4.7
(17 ratings)
8.0
(7 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
4.3
(3 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Usability
7.3
(1 ratings)
9.0
(3 ratings)
Availability
9.1
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Performance
9.1
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Support Rating
5.5
(1 ratings)
9.0
(3 ratings)
In-Person Training
9.1
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Online Training
8.2
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Implementation Rating
4.5
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Configurability
4.5
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Ease of integration
4.5
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Product Scalability
4.5
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Vendor post-sale
8.2
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Vendor pre-sale
7.3
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
User Testimonials
Epicor EclipseInfor M3
Likelihood to Recommend
Epicor Software
Eclipse is well suited for quick order entry where the source is a formal purchase order document or a phone call with a known customer. In these scenarios the order entry process is quick, and order processing is smooth even if the customer has a lot of "special" requests like shipping part today and holding the rest or shipping some of the order to other addresses. Eclipse also works well if you have a good database of products, especially in searching for products where only partial information is known or finding existing orders where all you know for sure is the customer. It is not particularly well suited for Point of Sale where a walk-in customer who doesn't have an account wants products for which part numbers are not known, due to the requirements to release an order for a customer with no credit.
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Infor
Manufacturing: Infor M3 is designed specifically for manufacturers and provides robust production planning and supply chain management features. The software can help optimize production processes, improve inventory management, and automate purchasing and order fulfillment.Distribution: Infor M3 offers advanced supply chain management capabilities, including inventory management and order tracking, making it an ideal solution for distribution companies.Large Organizations: Infor M3 is a scalable solution that can accommodate the needs of large organizations with complex supply chain and production requirements. The software's modular design allows organizations to customize their implementation to their specific needs.Global Operations: Infor M3 provides multi-language and multi-currency support, making it a suitable solution for organizations with global operations.
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Pros
Epicor Software
  • Sales Order tracking, even returns are strengths of Epicor Eclipse. It can be set up to match returns to previous orders so that the correct credits are applied. It is capable of setting up contract pricing as well as matrix level pricing according to sales velocity or individual customer buyer programs.
  • Purchasing can be set up to work by full line buys or short buys while still maintaining a balanced inventory level of vendor line product.
  • Vendor Invoices and purchase orders are easily matched up for payment and the diverse reporting features are able to provide multi-faceted views of Product Sales, Items with No Sales, or Sales or Purchasing trends, just to name a few.
  • It is also tracking warehouse operation in both RF and non-RF environments, or a combination of the two.
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Infor
  • Very stable product. Some of its weaknesses are also its strengths. The lack of web services seems to actually increase stability.
  • No software vendor in this space is perfect. Lawson does perform as advertised.
  • Again, a weakness of this (limited functionality) is a hidden strength as well. In software there is a complexity/feature tradeoff. Where Lawson lacks in features, it does give you a more simple setup for your organization.
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Cons
Epicor Software
  • The version we use is a non-windows based version, we chose this due to pricing since we are a small company.
  • Their Tier 1 level tech support leaves a little to be desired.
  • It would be nice to switch between open windows/screens.
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Infor
  • Not intuitive at all, difficult to learn.
  • System is archaic, seems to be largely unchanged since the early 2000's.
  • Reports are all in PDF form, which for financial reporting purposes is tedious to turn back into Excel sheets.
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Likelihood to Renew
Epicor Software
I use it every day and can't see a reason why I would stop unless I started a new job. If I were to leave my present position, the new job would be much more attractive if they were Eclipse users.
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Infor
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Usability
Epicor Software
This is very easy to use for someone that hasn't ever used the system before. Despite any preconceived notions about how a system should function they can learn this and become efficient with really not a lot of effort. I have used many systems and this is probably one of the easiest I have ever had to learn to navigate and use.
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Infor
This is a highly configurable product. Where all available support provided by [Information] is very good and exceeds our expectations! The investment in this product by Infor continues to be significant and is showing results! Infor is going a long way and is here to stay! No doubt about that!
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Reliability and Availability
Epicor Software
I haven't experienced any outages in the two years I have been using the system. It is always available as long as the computer is up. The only time I have seen it not be available was on occasions where we lost internet, or power and then we lost access to everything, not just Epicor Eclipse.
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Infor
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Performance
Epicor Software
Everything in this system moves fairly quickly, that may be in part because we are a small company with only 21 users on the system at a time, or it may just be a the way the Epicor Eclipse works for any size company with any number of users. I can only speak for what I know and say that it is fast for our purposes.
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Infor
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Support Rating
Epicor Software
The tier 1 support is trying, and sometimes they are successful. Sometimes they aren't. This topic isn't as black and white as the questions might suggest. Currently their Tier 1 support team is over seas, all items automatically go to Tier 1 and then when they can't help they either escalate it or tell me they need to check with someone else and they will get back to me. If they escalate me to Tier 2, then the issue comes back to the States and the support is usually at a higher knowledge/experience level and it can get resolved fairly quickly. If they don't escalate, then it might take weeks and multiple follow ups on my part before I either get a satisfactory resolution or finally get escalated.
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Infor
The support is satisfactory, given the large user base of the product. We had no issues to meet our reporting deadlines with Lawson. The organizational support team internally are well trained and hence only on exceptional basis issues are escalated to Lawson support team. We had no negative experience so far with the support of Lawson.
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In-Person Training
Epicor Software
The training classes that I have attended have been top notch. The presenters are extremely knowledgeable on their subject matter, including real-world application of the system. They aren't just software techs training end users, they seem to be end users that have become experts in the over functionality and capabilities of the system.
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Infor
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Online Training
Epicor Software
The on-line training is very good, and it is taught by the same people that do the live in-person training sessions. The difficult part of it is, asking questions about your specific company's nuances or special circumstances. I don't remember if you can access the on-line training sessions after you have taken them for reminders purposes, but if so that is a great asset.
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Infor
No answers on this topic
Implementation Rating
Epicor Software
I don't really know about the implementation, it was back in 1998 and I didn't start here until 2016. By the time I started here they had been running it for a number of years and most of the people that were here when it was implemented are no longer here, and the ones that are don't really have much to say about how the implementation went either bad or good.
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Infor
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Alternatives Considered
Epicor Software
Most of my experience has been with Epicor's Prophet 21. For most distribution verticals, Prophet 21 is the only way to go. The comparison I've drawn is this: Prophet 21 is like a ferrari. Epicor Eclipse is like a reliable donkey. Both get you from point A to point B but Prophet 21 is going to get you there much quicker and with the kind of insight into your business that will help you thrive.
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Infor
Lawson is comparable to the other ERP's I have used. Similar functionality and interface. Usability is comparable.
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Scalability
Epicor Software
I don't really know about the scalability. It's the same as it was when I started, I do know that you can buy more user licenses, but I think they come in packs of 5, which can be a problem if you only need 1 and will never use the other 4. But, again I'm not sure on that.
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Infor
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Return on Investment
Epicor Software
  • One of the main positive ROI impacts has been the constant upgrading and adding of new features to keep the software user friendly, relative, and robust.
  • Our credit manager has said it has made their job easier with daily reports to catch pricing discrepancies and straighten out before they go to invoice makes us look better.
  • With the addition of sale analytics it has given our sales force tools and new approaches to our customer base which has raised profitability.
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Infor
  • I wish Infor M3 (formerly Lawson Intentia) were more detailed. But, this actually may be a weakness of my employer and not Infor M3 (formerly Lawson Intentia).
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