Infor Birst vs. Salesforce Sales Cloud

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Infor Birst
Score 3.7 out of 10
N/A
Infor Birst offers multi-tenant cloud BI for deployment in a public or private cloud, or on-premises. It provides an in-memory columnar data store and a BI layer comprising a reporting engine, predictive analytics tools, mobile native apps, dashboards, discovery tools, and an open client interface.
$30,000
Per 20 Users Per Year
Salesforce Sales Cloud
Score 8.4 out of 10
N/A
Salesforce Sales Cloud is a platform for sales with a community of Sellers, Sales Leaders, and Sales Operations, who use the solution to grow sales and increase productivity. The AI CRM for Sales features data built right in, so that companies can sell faster, sell smarter and sell efficiently. Salesforce Sales Cloud is used for, and supports: Buyer Engagement Sales Engagement Enablement Sales AI Sales Analytics Team…
$25
per month
Pricing
Infor BirstSalesforce Sales Cloud
Editions & Modules
Basic License
$30,000
Per 20 Users Per Year
Starter
$25.00
Per User/Per Month
Professional
$80.00
Per User/Per Month
Enterprise
$165.00
Per User/Per Month
Unlimited
$330.00
Per user/Per month
Offerings
Pricing Offerings
Infor BirstSalesforce Sales Cloud
Free Trial
YesYes
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
YesNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeOptional
Additional Details
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Community Pulse
Infor BirstSalesforce Sales Cloud
Considered Both Products
Infor Birst
Chose Infor Birst
We compared Birst vs Tableau and Lumirra and there's no question that Birst is the best option from a cost perspective. Additionally, the ease of use complemented with our support team has allowed us to innovate on the platform quickly
Chose Infor Birst
We use other BI tools within the organization. These tools have been there before we got BIRST and while comparing, BIRST did score well against these tools but the migration cost to convert existing reports/data prevented us from replacing those tools with BIRST.
Chose Infor Birst
Birst's ETL is better suited to our purposes than Alooma's stream-based processing.
Birst's designer is more mature and meets or needs better than Periscope's reporting functionality, at the time I investigated it.
Chose Infor Birst
The ability to scale was the primary factor for our CIO's approval. The other products had solutions for scale, but Birst has the one we preferred. As an IoT company our CIO concentrates on products that will meet our requirements today and far into the future. The other …
Chose Infor Birst
Cloud first strategy: Oracle did not have a cloud BI solution.
Single end-to-end platform: Domo and GoodData relied upon third party ETL.
Chose Infor Birst
Birst is still the best SaaS based BI system IMHO
Chose Infor Birst
Selection was made before my involvement, but I agree with the selection. The ease of use of the web-based platform is a major plus, and compensates for some of the limitations.
Chose Infor Birst

There isn't a single tool that does everything Birst does. It's an end to end solution with unrivaled flexibility.

  • Choice of back end databases (including Redshift, HANA, Microsoft, Oracle, Infobright, etc).
Chose Infor Birst
Tableau is the leader in visualizations, from animation to ease of use, it takes the cake. But they do not (did not) have the data modeling capabilities that were offered with Birst. The step back in visualizations from Birst is more than made up for in their modeling. Qlik is …
Chose Infor Birst
We're glad we went with Birst over their competitors. The main reason is there ability to scale and rapid release cycles.
Chose Infor Birst
Integration with Salesforce was a big factor. Showed we could be up and running quickly.
Salesforce Sales Cloud

No answer on this topic

Top Pros
Top Cons
Features
Infor BirstSalesforce Sales Cloud
BI Standard Reporting
Comparison of BI Standard Reporting features of Product A and Product B
Infor Birst
7.4
77 Ratings
10% below category average
Salesforce Sales Cloud
-
Ratings
Pixel Perfect reports7.068 Ratings00 Ratings
Customizable dashboards8.077 Ratings00 Ratings
Report Formatting Templates7.159 Ratings00 Ratings
Ad-hoc Reporting
Comparison of Ad-hoc Reporting features of Product A and Product B
Infor Birst
7.0
78 Ratings
15% below category average
Salesforce Sales Cloud
-
Ratings
Drill-down analysis8.078 Ratings00 Ratings
Formatting capabilities7.077 Ratings00 Ratings
Integration with R or other statistical packages6.127 Ratings00 Ratings
Report sharing and collaboration7.068 Ratings00 Ratings
Report Output and Scheduling
Comparison of Report Output and Scheduling features of Product A and Product B
Infor Birst
8.0
75 Ratings
4% below category average
Salesforce Sales Cloud
-
Ratings
Publish to Web8.052 Ratings00 Ratings
Publish to PDF8.067 Ratings00 Ratings
Report Versioning7.28 Ratings00 Ratings
Report Delivery Scheduling9.066 Ratings00 Ratings
Data Discovery and Visualization
Comparison of Data Discovery and Visualization features of Product A and Product B
Infor Birst
6.9
72 Ratings
16% below category average
Salesforce Sales Cloud
-
Ratings
Pre-built visualization formats (heatmaps, scatter plots etc.)8.072 Ratings00 Ratings
Location Analytics / Geographic Visualization7.058 Ratings00 Ratings
Predictive Analytics5.833 Ratings00 Ratings
Access Control and Security
Comparison of Access Control and Security features of Product A and Product B
Infor Birst
8.3
72 Ratings
3% below category average
Salesforce Sales Cloud
-
Ratings
Multi-User Support (named login)9.070 Ratings00 Ratings
Role-Based Security Model8.068 Ratings00 Ratings
Multiple Access Permission Levels (Create, Read, Delete)8.069 Ratings00 Ratings
Mobile Capabilities
Comparison of Mobile Capabilities features of Product A and Product B
Infor Birst
5.0
54 Ratings
46% below category average
Salesforce Sales Cloud
-
Ratings
Responsive Design for Web Access7.052 Ratings00 Ratings
Mobile Application3.034 Ratings00 Ratings
Dashboard / Report / Visualization Interactivity on Mobile3.042 Ratings00 Ratings
Sales Force Automation
Comparison of Sales Force Automation features of Product A and Product B
Infor Birst
-
Ratings
Salesforce Sales Cloud
7.8
242 Ratings
1% above category average
Customer data management / contact management00 Ratings8.6242 Ratings
Workflow management00 Ratings7.9233 Ratings
Territory management00 Ratings7.5186 Ratings
Opportunity management00 Ratings8.5236 Ratings
Integration with email client (e.g., Outlook or Gmail)00 Ratings7.6221 Ratings
Contract management00 Ratings7.2193 Ratings
Quote & order management00 Ratings7.5176 Ratings
Interaction tracking00 Ratings7.6207 Ratings
Channel / partner relationship management00 Ratings7.7168 Ratings
Customer Service & Support
Comparison of Customer Service & Support features of Product A and Product B
Infor Birst
-
Ratings
Salesforce Sales Cloud
7.4
84 Ratings
1% below category average
Case management00 Ratings7.884 Ratings
Call center management00 Ratings7.366 Ratings
Help desk management00 Ratings7.268 Ratings
Marketing Automation
Comparison of Marketing Automation features of Product A and Product B
Infor Birst
-
Ratings
Salesforce Sales Cloud
7.7
221 Ratings
2% above category average
Lead management00 Ratings7.9216 Ratings
Email marketing00 Ratings7.5185 Ratings
CRM Project Management
Comparison of CRM Project Management features of Product A and Product B
Infor Birst
-
Ratings
Salesforce Sales Cloud
7.5
224 Ratings
1% below category average
Task management00 Ratings7.5213 Ratings
Billing and invoicing management00 Ratings7.260 Ratings
Reporting00 Ratings7.9177 Ratings
CRM Reporting & Analytics
Comparison of CRM Reporting & Analytics features of Product A and Product B
Infor Birst
-
Ratings
Salesforce Sales Cloud
7.8
237 Ratings
2% above category average
Forecasting00 Ratings7.4206 Ratings
Pipeline visualization00 Ratings7.8225 Ratings
Customizable reports00 Ratings8.2234 Ratings
Customization
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Infor Birst
-
Ratings
Salesforce Sales Cloud
8.1
228 Ratings
7% above category average
Custom fields00 Ratings8.2226 Ratings
Custom objects00 Ratings8.1216 Ratings
Scripting environment00 Ratings8.1160 Ratings
API for custom integration00 Ratings8.2189 Ratings
Security
Comparison of Security features of Product A and Product B
Infor Birst
-
Ratings
Salesforce Sales Cloud
8.7
230 Ratings
5% above category average
Single sign-on capability00 Ratings8.8197 Ratings
Role-based user permissions00 Ratings8.6203 Ratings
Social CRM
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Infor Birst
-
Ratings
Salesforce Sales Cloud
7.5
145 Ratings
3% above category average
Social data00 Ratings7.6144 Ratings
Social engagement00 Ratings7.5141 Ratings
Integrations with 3rd-party Software
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Infor Birst
-
Ratings
Salesforce Sales Cloud
7.8
197 Ratings
9% above category average
Marketing automation00 Ratings7.8193 Ratings
Compensation management00 Ratings7.8130 Ratings
Platform
Comparison of Platform features of Product A and Product B
Infor Birst
-
Ratings
Salesforce Sales Cloud
7.2
208 Ratings
4% below category average
Mobile access00 Ratings7.2208 Ratings
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User Ratings
Infor BirstSalesforce Sales Cloud
Likelihood to Recommend
8.0
(96 ratings)
8.4
(374 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
9.0
(35 ratings)
9.0
(56 ratings)
Usability
9.0
(12 ratings)
7.6
(120 ratings)
Availability
4.1
(6 ratings)
9.8
(27 ratings)
Performance
7.5
(6 ratings)
9.0
(18 ratings)
Support Rating
6.0
(19 ratings)
5.7
(91 ratings)
In-Person Training
9.1
(4 ratings)
7.9
(11 ratings)
Online Training
8.0
(2 ratings)
9.1
(15 ratings)
Implementation Rating
5.3
(6 ratings)
1.0
(18 ratings)
Configurability
7.0
(2 ratings)
10.0
(2 ratings)
Contract Terms and Pricing Model
-
(0 ratings)
8.8
(9 ratings)
Ease of integration
5.0
(2 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Product Scalability
6.0
(2 ratings)
8.7
(33 ratings)
Professional Services
-
(0 ratings)
9.3
(8 ratings)
Vendor post-sale
5.0
(2 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Vendor pre-sale
7.0
(2 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
User Testimonials
Infor BirstSalesforce Sales Cloud
Likelihood to Recommend
Infor
Birst is well suited for an organization looking for a cloud-hosted analytics solution that is contained within one package. It is able to connect to a very wide variety of different data sources, and has options for either light or involved ETL procedures, depending on the users experience with preparing data. As with any BI project, it would not be suitable for an organization where there is no dedicated team to maintain and manage the project.
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Salesforce
Sales Cloud is very well suited for the daily leads and opportunity pipeline management as well as user management. Sales process automation are very helpful for repetitive tasks. It integrates well with other platforms. It's easy to customize and report on data. Sales Cloud can be pricey so is only open to larger org's that need complex CRM. User adoption is slow to any new users that have no prior experience.
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Pros
Infor
  • Birst is an platform that provides connectors to some of the applications we use, but also allows us to bring in data from disparate systems to perform ETL and integrate all of the data for analyses. It makes no assumptions about your data, which is good for us, as we have a lot of customizations to many of our systems.
  • Birst is making inroads towards a more modern UI.
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Salesforce
  • Logging notes: SF makes it easy to log notes in the timeline or static notes that live in an easy-to-see spot for longevity.
  • Logging activities: It's easy to post a call, text, email, etc.
  • API data: Once connected, SF is critical to automation, such as website activity, login activity, pages visited, etc., which saves the Customer Success side time in understanding account activity.
  • Custom fields: you can add custom fields to really personalize your experience. We use quite a few and it's brilliant.
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Cons
Infor
  • Birst prices are fairly expensive. License plus cost of users can add up pretty quickly
  • Depending on the size of data, rendering of reports can take a little bit. Need faster processing of data
  • Takes a little time to understand how to build reports, not the most intuitive UI
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Salesforce
  • I have hard-coded the auto-update of the phone number format and state format from some codes shared by the community, but I do not know where to do it. I cannot reset it either.
  • It is unclear what functionalities each version has. We use the enterprise version, and it seems we can only have one design of the pipeline. But different business segments would have very different sales cycles, and hence, pipeline tracking would be different. It would be nice to have this available in our version.
  • It seems I cannot create a report to pull notes logged at the account levels.
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Likelihood to Renew
Infor
We have been able to overcome any of the drawbacks we've found with Birst easily and it has fulfilled almost all of our analytic needs to date. Having seen their roadmap it would be highly unlikely we would move away from this platform any time soon. You simply can't beat the functionality that Birst provides for the price and the things I see coming out of the company solidify that our decision to choose Birst was the best possible choice. We have never regretted the decision.
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Salesforce
There are days when I wish we hadn't switched, but I know that if we put in the time, we will get to where we want to be with the software and that it has many more capabilities than anything else we looked at. However, the amount of time and onboarding we need to do is also far greater than we realized/were told when we originally bought the product. They told us we should hire onboarding support, but at the end, after we had already reached our budget maximum for this, so it's been slower than we had hoped.
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Usability
Infor
I would like to see additional usability put into the ETL scripting. Recently, Birst added a nice function reference inline to formula creation which has kept me from having to return to documentation so much. The same in ETL would be very beneficial. The interface problems related to the Flex framework are being addressed in a rewrite to HTML 5, but for now they are still a hindrance to a higher usability rating.
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Salesforce
Salesforce has been designed on the basis of "Clicks, not code". So anyone willing to learn the Salesforce user interface (which is quite good as far as management software platforms go) is able to become a Salesforce user or even a Salesforce administrator. You don't have to know coding language to work in the Salesforce environment. Also, Salesforce has one of the best software training resources (Trailhead) that I have ever encountered. It is free to all, easy to use, and most importantly it is interactive. No scrolling through endless text in a user manual. There are hands-on modules and related videos interlaced and through it all you earn points and badges to display your level of learning.
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Reliability and Availability
Infor
We frequently experience -103 errors due to us using the Live Connect functionality, which does not seem to handle even minor interruptions in connectivity, and treats all future connection attempts or data requests as errors, even if the issue does not exist any longer
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Salesforce
Salesforce is always available securely from any internet-capable device anywhere in the world, UNLESS you choose to set security measures so that ONLY trusted IP ranges may access the system at certain times of the day. It's all about choice and flexibility with Salesforce products.
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Performance
Infor
Everything runs very fast and smoothly. The only process that I wish was faster would be processing the data after uploading new data or making changes to the existing data model. It can take 15-20 minutes (roughly) to upload and process new data once you start getting into 10's of millions of rows. Given my experience with how long it takes me to pull the same data using SQL Server Management Studio, I don't think Birst is unreasonably slow - but for me to give a higher rating, I would want it to be unreasonably fast
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Salesforce
Salesforce performance in general is excellent. "The cloud infrastructure beneath Force.com has been fine-tuned over the past 10 years. It powers nearly 100,000+ businesses running more than 185,000 applications that 3 million users count on every day."
Points per Salesforce -
1) Multitenant kernel - With a multitenant platform, each business that uses the app doesn’t have its own copy. Instead, all businesses share a single copy and then customize it for their specific needs.
2) ISO 27001 certified security - You can’t compromise when it comes to enterprise-level security. Force.com is road-tested and trusted by nearly 100,000+ companies, including many of the world’s most security-conscious organizations, such as banks and health care providers.
3) Proven reliability - All Force.com apps run on world-class data centers with backup, failover, and disaster-recovery facilities. Force.com has had a proven 99.9 percent uptime record for years.
4) Proven, real-time scalability - Force.com is used by many of the world's largest enterprises, including Cisco, Japan Post Network, and Symantec. Applications can automatically scale from a few users to millions of page views, as needed.
5) Real-time query optimizer - You need fast access to your data. The Force.com query optimizer delivers under 300ms response time, at a massive scale.
6) Real-time transparent system status - You can always see real-time system performance, availability, and security information at trust.salesforce.com.
7) Real-time upgrades - Unlike traditional software platforms, our upgrades never break your customizations, code, or integrations. We upgrade the platform for you 3 to 4 times each year. As a result, you’re always on the latest version, with access to the latest features, performance, and security enhancements.
8) Real-time sandbox environments - With a single click, you can create copies of your applications, configuration, and data in separate environments for development, testing, and training.
9) Three global production data centers and disaster recovery - Force.com runs on three geographically dispersed, mirrored data centers with built-in replication, disaster recovery, a redundant network backbone, and no single points of failure
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Support Rating
Infor
When we have an issue that is stopping our business from proceeding, I want answers sooner than later. While Birst does have a published response time for each case level, we always wish it could be quicker. What response improvement could there be with a larger support team? In response to first question: Blackhole of issues - Birst needs to improve upon closing issues that resolution was dependent upon code fixes or enhancements, perhaps someone to add a comment on all case tickets at least every 60 days. Escalation - I always have the ability to electronically or via phone escalate a ticket. I also have my Customer Success Manager through whom I can escalate topics.
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Salesforce
The overall support has been good. More and more features are being released quite frequently. Very small features are also making big difference in how the tool can be adapted and used better. If there is anything we need or are stuck, the support team sets up a call and helps in resolving the issue/provides workarounds.
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In-Person Training
Infor
I have attended two different training sessions. The first one was my initial training on the system. It was well paced, clear and concise. If there were questions that were not able to be answered by the instructor, he took down the question and actually followed up and provided us a response quickly. The second session was specific to the dashboard and report design components. This training was very good though there were some attendants who had little or no experience and their questions slowed the class.
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Salesforce
I attended two training sessions. I would rate them a 4 as an advanced user. It was very basic – great for someone new – would give 8+ for new person.

I had 3 years of experience at the time. I skipped basic and went onto advanced and still not helpful. A lot of it was best practices that didn’t feel relevant for our business
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Online Training
Infor
Although I found the online resources helpful, a lack of appropriate examples for certain tasks key to report creation and advanced modeling make the online training/documentation less than perfect. For an inexperienced BI professional, the online training would not enable a streamlined launch of the product.
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Salesforce
I have gone through multiple. The content that’s delivered is quite basic – I wish they had more advanced training.

We are grandfathered into premium support plus training. We get unlimited access to instructor led and online training for free. We have taken advantage of this
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Implementation Rating
Infor
Have clean data! Birst flexibility allows - Start small, then introduce functionality and complexity along the way. If you try to present all the functionality [bells and whistles] and wow them, but bad data is uncovered, the end user blames the new application and turns away.
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Salesforce
Just from an organizational standpoint - we standardized our data prior to moving to Salesforce. But we essentially standardized it wrong. That's created a big disgusting mess for us know that I'll have to deal with as the Admin. Be sure you think through use cases prior to doing something like that - seek outside opinions on how the data will work best, especially depending on what else you're going to integrate with Salesforce.
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Alternatives Considered
Infor
During the vetting process, we looked at 14 different products (one of them internal) to see if they would fit our needs and whittled it down to this one over a three month period. We did not contact sales for all of them (sales sites were enough to rule out some), but did have a lot of demos with a significant portion of them and reviewed several of the major industry studies as well. We had representatives of both user interests/design and the technical backend on the evaluation process.
The major features we were looking for a product that we could embed inside our own SaaS application, connect to a sharded Postgres database, had multitenancy and allowed for customer generated reports/ self-reporting. Some of the minor "nice to have" features we were looking at was scheduled reports, especially if we could plug it into our own scheduling system (for CAN-SPAM compliance), internationalization, and support.
In the evaluation, Birst hit all of the must-haves and enough of the nice to haves that they made it down to our final two and the trial was the clincher to make it our final choice.
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Salesforce
Salesforce Sales cloud is well integrated with a lot of other marketing and sales technology SAAS products that we use within our business, which is a big part of why I enjoy using it. Compared to NetSuite, it is a lot more user friendly, a modern platform that provides better visual understanding of sales pipeline and contains more useful data across the customer journey.
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Contract Terms and Pricing Model
Infor
No answers on this topic
Salesforce
Salesforce is the most widely used CRM system. Professionalism tends to increase when things go wrong for market leaders. Salesforce considers us as users because they own the market. Having all of our data in one place and all of our teams working within Salesforce. Anyone who uses Salesforce is impacted by it, even if they don't.
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Scalability
Infor
we can see that loading a lot of data can cause a noticable slow down in performance. Birst support indicated that they don't really consider anything less than 30 seconds to be an issue, but that is not the case for our customers, so we have had to change some of implementation to address this
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Salesforce
I don't think there is a limit to Sales Cloud's scalability; at least, I haven't encountered one or heard of one. My data is not enormous, so perhaps some companies might encounter lags, but nothing from my end. I think I'll be able to use Sales Cloud from now until infinity.
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Professional Services
Infor
No answers on this topic
Salesforce
Using Salesforce.com has made my daily routines more efficient and simplified the manual tasks I had to perform independently. I can now access data from any device, online or offline, and provide better guidance to my team about the forecasts provided by the built-in artificial intelligence (AI). A chat with a Salesforce support specialist would be great. The knowledge base has a community forum where Salesforce users can ask questions and learn more about the product.
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Return on Investment
Infor
  • Being a manufacturing company we tend to lag behind technologically. But having all the data for different ERP systems in one place has been an eye opener for the executives. It has lessened the need to convert some legacy ERP systems.
  • Having such a simple reporting tool is a great asset to some of our sites that have traditionally had trouble gathering data from AS400 systems.
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Salesforce
  • All tools we've implemented with Salesforce had a pretty quick positive ROI with the exception of CPQ & Billing. That was a very large project that I would only suggest for businesses with many SKUs that tend to be packaged together.
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