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10000ft

2 Ratings

Paymo

8 Ratings

10000ft

2 Ratings
Score 5.1 out of 101

Paymo

8 Ratings
Score 8.5 out of 101

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Likelihood to Recommend

10000ft

I think 10000ft is good for bare minimum project monitoring, we used it a large company because we didn't need to have exact numbers - it was just a rough idea to see where freelance resources were over burning. If, however you work a much smaller company and really need to know detailed information it's not as effective, there are many other software options that really allow for much closer and precise tracking. I would recommend 10000ft for companies that just need to monitor large freelance teams, track hours and higher level projects that are also monitored on other project management tools. It's a tool I would only use in conjunction with something else.

Paymo

Well suited: tracking time, making notes to share with clients, live reporting. Less so: tracking and bookkeeping - they don't market it as a bookkeeping app, though they do allow for invoicing through it. Still, my needs are such that I use a separate app for tracking receipts against a project and then invoicing clients.

Feature Rating Comparison

Project Management

10000ft
3.5
Paymo
6.8
Task Management
10000ft
6.0
Paymo
7.6
Resource Management
10000ft
6.0
Paymo
6.9
Gantt Charts
10000ft
2.0
Paymo
Scheduling
10000ft
2.0
Paymo
6.3
Workflow Automation
10000ft
2.0
Paymo
Team Collaboration
10000ft
1.0
Paymo
7.7
Document Management
10000ft
2.0
Paymo
6.4
Email integration
10000ft
1.0
Paymo
6.0
Timesheet Tracking
10000ft
7.0
Paymo
9.2
Change request and Case Management
10000ft
2.0
Paymo
Budget and Expense Management
10000ft
7.0
Paymo
6.6
Mobile Access
10000ft
Paymo
4.3

Professional Services Automation

10000ft
5.0
Paymo
Quotes/estimates
10000ft
6.0
Paymo
Invoicing
10000ft
2.0
Paymo
Project & financial reporting
10000ft
7.0
Paymo

Pros

  • Tracks freelance resource hours.
  • Tracks multiple small projects and milestones within the projects.
  • Tracks budget information and scope creep.
  • The ability to code exactly what time I worked on a project enables me to bill clients more accurately and within different minimums, which besides more accurately tracking time, this has been extremely helpful as I negotiate contracts for services and offer different deals with potential clients. Some are billed to the minute, some in 15-minute minimums, and some in 20-minute blocks.
  • The live reports are great, showing time spent in the minimums that I've set, while also including as much detail as I wish to share.
  • I've now started just writing my notes into the tracker, which are then carried into the live reports - this eases my needing to send logs to clients, as well as helping me to keep projects on track.

Cons

  • It's often confusing to use and find things, I sometimes find it to be a little counterintuitive as to where functions are (e.g. for tracking budgets and pulling reports).
  • When pulling a budget I always struggled to comb through the large amounts of data and time inputted. When I select a filter the page often wouldn't refresh or i'd forget to de-select a filter as it wasn't in an obvious place, which sometimes left me with pulling an incorrect budget.
  • The data is only as good as the people entering the time. Often with so many small tasks people would enter time incorrectly, in the wrong milestone or project. It lists all of your projects on one page, so it's not easy to enter it and there's a lot of room for error.
  • Project list personalizing. Paymo is primarily meant for freelancers, so the only way to see how much time you've spent on a job since last recording time is to navigate through a few pages to hunt down the number. It would be easier if we could personalize the list to just show that number in the main list.
  • Not intuitive. It takes a lot of set up on the front end to get jobs where you want them to be, and some features are not where you'd think they would be to get the jobs set up to track time.
  • Huge learning curve. I've already heard a couple of my teammates look for alternatives because there was too much of a learning curve for them.

Likelihood to Renew

10000ft4.0
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I think there's limited uses for the tool and much more comprehensive options out there for multiple tools in one. With more people working remotely, it's hard to just use email and face to face, in some ways you need to have a tool that's a fall back and a record of where you are + where you're going
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Although an interesting tool, compared to Basecamp or Workfront, 10000ft really struggles on the collaboration aspect of the tool. It's great for the bare minimum, recording hours and pulling a budget, but we also relied on email for collaboration and face to face meetings - which is no bad thing! Although for big companies and small projects it's nice to have everything all in one tool so there's less jumping and room for error. That would be my recommendation for any company evaluating it
Paymo lets me track to the minute - even going back to add in time that I wasn't able to track via the app. This has been wonderful as clients might call with something quick but when I'm not able to turn on the tracker, yet I'm still able to appear to them as if I was sitting by the computer eager waiting to help. Further, the amount of notes that I'm able to put into the tracker has allowed me to include more details on live reports and invoices that I was able to do with other apps. This meant that I didn't have to track those tasks in too many spots, easing potential confusion and saving time.

Return on Investment

  • Positive - We were able to track multiple projects at the same time and record accurate hours.
  • Positive - Able to pull budget and excel reports which can the be analyzed further and relatively simply.
  • Negative - There were a lot of times when hours were entered inaccurately which left us in a bind with budget and freelance billing.
  • Gives me more accurate time that I've spent on projects compared to older methods I've used.
  • Has data that I can pull together, for example my boss wanted to know the percentage of time I'd spent working on projects for one client compared to everything else - I was able to give them an accurate percentage.
  • Forces you to stay on top of jobs, which can lengthen the time to complete something

Pricing Details

10000ft

General
Free Trial
Free/Freemium Version
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
Entry-level set up fee?
Additional Pricing Details

Paymo

General
Free Trial
Yes
Free/Freemium Version
Yes
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
Entry-level set up fee?
No
Additional Pricing Details
$4.95/user/month $9.95/company/month - invoicing add-on