12mass vs. Sysomos, now part of Meltwater

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
12mass
Score 4.0 out of 10
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12mass is a Social Conversation tool enabling brands to engage with a large audience on Twitter and Facebook without compromising the personal touch. Its clustering tool makes search easier and the Multivariable testing allows for optimization of the responses.N/A
Sysomos, now part of Meltwater
Score 8.5 out of 10
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Sysomos was a social media listening and marketing solution for content discovery, planning, publishing, moderation, and analytics. Sysomos was acquired by Meltwater, and is no longer available, but the features of the former Sysomos are now part of the Meltwater platform.
$1,000
per month
Pricing
12massSysomos, now part of Meltwater
Editions & Modules
No answers on this topic
Sysomos
$1,000.00
per month
Offerings
Pricing Offerings
12massSysomos, now part of Meltwater
Free Trial
YesNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
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User Ratings
12massSysomos, now part of Meltwater
Likelihood to Recommend
8.5
(3 ratings)
7.0
(46 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
8.2
(3 ratings)
6.8
(28 ratings)
Usability
8.2
(2 ratings)
9.0
(6 ratings)
Availability
-
(0 ratings)
8.2
(5 ratings)
Performance
-
(0 ratings)
8.5
(5 ratings)
Support Rating
8.2
(2 ratings)
2.0
(8 ratings)
In-Person Training
-
(0 ratings)
9.6
(2 ratings)
Online Training
-
(0 ratings)
8.0
(5 ratings)
Implementation Rating
8.2
(1 ratings)
10.0
(8 ratings)
User Testimonials
12massSysomos, now part of Meltwater
Likelihood to Recommend
12mass
The only problem with 12mass may be that it might come accross as spam. Personally, for every 100+ sincere responses that I get, I'm hit by 1 or 2 responses that ask me to stop spamming. The beauty is that if you're paying attention to your dashboard, you see when these things happen, and you can reply yourself to assure the customer that there is a real live human typing out the characters they are reading. I would advise that the person given the 12mass account to handle should be someone who can exercise caution. It is a great tool to leverage on, provided you put thought and effort into your 'canned' responses that are actually useful instead of just blatant advertising/spamming. The latter would not be optimal for you.
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Discontinued Products
Sysomos Expion is best suited, in my opinion, to offices where either you have only one moderator/manager OR where multiple users plan to manage a specific channel. Without live updates, it gets far too complicated for multiple users to manage the exact same workload
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Pros
12mass
  • The smart clustering works wonder and will help you loads in managing a huge number of mentions everyday or reaching out to people who might be interested in your product. The tool cleverly groups similar tweets together even though they don't match word by word. It saves me time everyday responding to tweets with similar content. The nice thing about it is you can customize your responses so you don't sound like a machine, thus the personal touch is still there.
  • 12mass is the only tool that allows you to measure your responses against stipulated metrics like engagement rate, click-through rate and so on, so you know which responses are best welcome by the audience
  • The system gets smarter as you use it, which speeds up the conversations even further.
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  • Ad-hoc research. During planning phase of a campaign it is a helpful tool to understand the marketplace, key influencers and topics that engage a target demographic.
  • Post-event hashtag analysis. Rapid generation of reporting on efficacy of a campaign, key voices, topics that resonated, viral reach and more.
  • User interface. Friendly and accessible enough to minimize training needs and enable decentralized access, though we have found some hand-holding is still required to get the most out of the platform.
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Cons
12mass
  • Should add a Facebook private messages option.
  • If my brand wasn't mentioned so much I don't think I would need to use it.
  • Sometimes the site is slow.
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  • It does not provide a visual for volume over time.
  • The visuals aren't excellent, and would require an export to create better looking graphics.
  • The interface isn't intuitive and sometimes requires clicking around to find things that seem like they should be under a different title.
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Likelihood to Renew
12mass
In addition to what I've said, maybe its personal, but I don't waste time on a new product if I find something that works. If I hear of anything better (maybe on TrustRadius!) then we'll see. But for now, if it ain't broke don't fix it. My efforts could be much better used elsewhere.
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There are two differentiating features that Sysomos MAP has that the competitor tools I have experienced (Radian6, Meltwater Buzz) did not: user-friendly Boolean queries for searches and near-real-time results. The former is important because, of course, your results are only as good as your search/campaign. With Sysomos, once you master Boolean queries (which isn't terribly difficult) you're set for creating any kind of listening report. I strongly prefer this to the "campaign creator" forms that other services provide. Second, Sysomos MAP returns results almost immediately - like a Google search. So if you get your results and see that you need to tweak your query - no big deal. Or if you have a last-minute request for a client - not an issue. Meltwater can take up to 48 hours for a search to fully populate. This is a major issue if you get your full set of results back and see that you need to adjust the query; you're looking at another two days of wait time. A long wait on results can also prove problematic in agency settings where clients or prospective clients often need results with a quick turnaround.
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Usability
12mass
It's easy to use, after a while you'll get used to it and find it easy to navigate
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The product is very easy to use. The platform is visual and data is easy to read. Boolean construction can sometimes be difficult, but the boolean constructor tool is helpful for boolean beginners. For more experienced boolean constructors, the boolean display at the top is very helpful in identifying where there may be holes in the construction
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Reliability and Availability
12mass
No answers on this topic
Discontinued Products
Not really an availability issue, but concurrency licensing rules mean that only one user can be logged in at a time.
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Performance
12mass
No answers on this topic
Discontinued Products
This has not been an issue. It is actually beating TweetDeck when we are tagged within a post that TweetDeck is monitoring.
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Support Rating
12mass
helped me every time
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Discontinued Products
Unfortunately, we have not had a great experience with customer support from Klear. In the sales process, they were very responsive and helpful, but when onboarded, it definitely changed. We are based in the US and our customer service rep is based in Israel, meaning our work hours barely overlap. Oftentimes we're waiting 24+ hours for a response, and when it's a time-sensitive issue (like the platform not pulling in Instagram Story data) we want it to be resolved as quickly as possible. Klear also has a chat feature for more immediate help, but we've experienced a similar situation there where it takes 12+ hours to get a response and it's usually from our customer service rep. Our rep is very nice, but also doesn't seem very knowledgeable about the platform, and usually can't provide an immediate answer to a question we ask and has to "check with her team."
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Online Training
12mass
No answers on this topic
Discontinued Products
We had a kick-off training with the whole team where they walked us through the functionality. This was a pretty effective and comprehensive training.
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Implementation Rating
12mass
see the tutorials on you tube. that helps
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Implementation was so easy I dont even remember it!
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Alternatives Considered
12mass
We selected 12mass because they responsed to our queries readily, and understood our concerns. The CEO (Agmon) doesn't waste time or effort, and got down to the brass tacks during our discussions. Even today, if there is an issue, the team is quick and reliable in responding
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Discontinued Products
We've used Sprout Social & Hootsuite in the past -- and they all stack up pretty evenly. Sysomos has the same features as Sprout or Hootsuite, except their reports and analytics are a little more detailed. Hootsuite has a better social media management software and dashboard though
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Return on Investment
12mass
  • Better customer service and more interactions on twitter for sure! I've seen a huge jump in the interactions since I started using the product. Also, I've established a lot of connections with influencers by asking meaningful questions.
  • It definitely saves time, I don't think you can ever engage with that many people manually.
  • More people are trying our products as we find a fit between their needs and our offerings through engaging with them on Twitter.
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  • Lowered costs and overhead when Expion got introduced as we now use one centralized solution for all of our social media work
  • We can finally calculate ROI with ease and understand our campaign performance through proper tracking and analytics
  • Competition tracking was never easier
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ScreenShots

Sysomos, now part of Meltwater Screenshots

Screenshot of TOP CONTENT: See the best performing content from all your social media channels in one view plus compare it against your competitors’ pages.Screenshot of FAN MODERATION: Sysomos Expion makes it easy to know who to speak to, when to engage in conversation and can even be integrated with customer care centers.Screenshot of PUBLISH: Easily plan, schedule and publish content from a simple drag-and-drop calendar with workflow that’s easy to track and review.Screenshot of OPTIMIZE PAID ADS: Optimize paid ads with smarter analytics and trending triggers so you can better understand how organic and paid content are working together.Screenshot of DYNAMIC DASHBOARDS: Powerful marketing analytics shows that it’s not just about creating a report or crunching some numbers - but about telling a story.  You’ll discover patterns, breakouts, and trends in real time to capitalize on opportunities.