Ascentis (discontinued) vs. PDS Vista

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Ascentis (discontinued)
Score 7.5 out of 10
N/A
Ascentis HR uses web-based management programs to help automate complex HR processes. Ascentis’ other services included customizable payroll, time and attendance and recruiting modules. Ascentis was acquired by UKG in March of 2022, and will be discontinued.N/A
PDS Vista
Score 6.3 out of 10
Enterprise companies (1,001+ employees)
Vista® is a human resource, benefits, payroll, recruiting, and self-service software. Functional elements include recruitment, staffing, position and training management, compliance, and performance and compensation.N/A
Pricing
Ascentis (discontinued)PDS Vista
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
Ascentis (discontinued)PDS Vista
Free Trial
NoNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoYes
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional DetailsLicense pricing is based on the number of full and part-time active employees within bands (e.g. 751-1,000). SaaS pricing is based on PEPM.
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Community Pulse
Ascentis (discontinued)PDS Vista
Top Pros
Top Cons
Features
Ascentis (discontinued)PDS Vista
Human Resource Management
Comparison of Human Resource Management features of Product A and Product B
Ascentis (discontinued)
7.1
150 Ratings
10% below category average
PDS Vista
7.7
18 Ratings
2% below category average
Employee demographic data6.7137 Ratings9.017 Ratings
Employment history7.3140 Ratings9.018 Ratings
Job profiles and administration6.9128 Ratings9.014 Ratings
Workflow for transfers, promotions, pay raises, etc.6.7126 Ratings7.012 Ratings
Organizational charting5.290 Ratings7.013 Ratings
Organization and location management8.0109 Ratings7.016 Ratings
Compliance data (COBRA, OSHA, etc.)8.8102 Ratings6.011 Ratings
Payroll Management
Comparison of Payroll Management features of Product A and Product B
Ascentis (discontinued)
7.8
125 Ratings
3% below category average
PDS Vista
8.0
18 Ratings
0% below category average
Pay calculation7.1115 Ratings8.216 Ratings
Support for external payroll vendors6.162 Ratings7.39 Ratings
Off-cycle/On-Demand payment8.328 Ratings00 Ratings
Benefit plan administration6.7108 Ratings8.216 Ratings
Direct deposit files9.2100 Ratings8.217 Ratings
Salary revision and increment management8.692 Ratings8.213 Ratings
Reimbursement management8.851 Ratings8.25 Ratings
Leave and Attendance Management
Comparison of Leave and Attendance Management features of Product A and Product B
Ascentis (discontinued)
7.8
105 Ratings
4% below category average
PDS Vista
8.2
13 Ratings
1% above category average
Approval workflow7.999 Ratings8.27 Ratings
Balance details7.099 Ratings8.213 Ratings
Annual carry-forward and encashment8.484 Ratings8.212 Ratings
Employee Self Service
Comparison of Employee Self Service features of Product A and Product B
Ascentis (discontinued)
7.0
153 Ratings
15% below category average
PDS Vista
7.1
17 Ratings
14% below category average
View and generate pay and benefit information7.8138 Ratings8.216 Ratings
Update personal information8.6151 Ratings7.314 Ratings
View company policy documentation5.4110 Ratings7.38 Ratings
Employee recognition6.061 Ratings7.25 Ratings
View job history7.3108 Ratings5.84 Ratings
Asset Management
Comparison of Asset Management features of Product A and Product B
Ascentis (discontinued)
5.8
33 Ratings
29% below category average
PDS Vista
7.3
7 Ratings
6% below category average
Tracking of all physical assets5.833 Ratings7.37 Ratings
HR Reporting
Comparison of HR Reporting features of Product A and Product B
Ascentis (discontinued)
6.4
147 Ratings
17% below category average
PDS Vista
8.0
16 Ratings
5% above category average
Report builder7.0144 Ratings8.014 Ratings
Pre-built reports7.5142 Ratings8.016 Ratings
Ability to combine HR data with external data4.673 Ratings8.013 Ratings
Onboarding
Comparison of Onboarding features of Product A and Product B
Ascentis (discontinued)
5.1
98 Ratings
45% below category average
PDS Vista
7.3
1 Ratings
10% below category average
New hire portal5.398 Ratings7.31 Ratings
Manager tracking tools4.976 Ratings00 Ratings
Performance and Goals
Comparison of Performance and Goals features of Product A and Product B
Ascentis (discontinued)
7.2
57 Ratings
13% below category average
PDS Vista
5.8
2 Ratings
34% below category average
Corporate goal setting6.743 Ratings5.52 Ratings
Individual goal setting7.653 Ratings5.52 Ratings
Line-of sight-visibility7.138 Ratings00 Ratings
Performance tracking7.250 Ratings6.42 Ratings
Performance Management
Comparison of Performance Management features of Product A and Product B
Ascentis (discontinued)
6.0
63 Ratings
28% below category average
PDS Vista
7.3
4 Ratings
9% below category average
Performance plans5.659 Ratings7.32 Ratings
Performance improvement plans5.650 Ratings7.31 Ratings
Review status tracking5.857 Ratings7.32 Ratings
Review reminders6.555 Ratings7.23 Ratings
Multiple review frequency6.650 Ratings7.32 Ratings
Succession Planning
Comparison of Succession Planning features of Product A and Product B
Ascentis (discontinued)
5.9
27 Ratings
29% below category average
PDS Vista
3.6
1 Ratings
75% below category average
Create succession plans/pools6.421 Ratings3.61 Ratings
Candidate ranking6.421 Ratings3.61 Ratings
Candidate search5.027 Ratings3.61 Ratings
Candidate development5.823 Ratings3.61 Ratings
Recruiting / ATS
Comparison of Recruiting / ATS features of Product A and Product B
Ascentis (discontinued)
5.5
89 Ratings
35% below category average
PDS Vista
2.5
3 Ratings
103% below category average
Job Requisition Management5.585 Ratings3.13 Ratings
Company Website Posting5.279 Ratings3.13 Ratings
Publish to Social Media5.759 Ratings00 Ratings
Job Search Site Posting5.871 Ratings00 Ratings
Duplicate Candidate Prevention5.657 Ratings1.92 Ratings
Applicant Tracking5.783 Ratings2.33 Ratings
Notifications and Alerts5.369 Ratings2.02 Ratings
Best Alternatives
Ascentis (discontinued)PDS Vista
Small Businesses
Patriot Software
Patriot Software
Score 9.1 out of 10
Patriot Software
Patriot Software
Score 9.1 out of 10
Medium-sized Companies
Paypro Workforce Management
Paypro Workforce Management
Score 9.6 out of 10
Paypro Workforce Management
Paypro Workforce Management
Score 9.6 out of 10
Enterprises
Infor Human Resources
Infor Human Resources
Score 7.2 out of 10
Infor Human Resources
Infor Human Resources
Score 7.2 out of 10
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User Ratings
Ascentis (discontinued)PDS Vista
Likelihood to Recommend
7.2
(164 ratings)
8.0
(23 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
6.3
(12 ratings)
9.1
(7 ratings)
Usability
7.6
(44 ratings)
8.2
(2 ratings)
Availability
6.7
(5 ratings)
9.5
(2 ratings)
Performance
7.1
(4 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Support Rating
8.2
(150 ratings)
8.2
(3 ratings)
In-Person Training
8.0
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Online Training
8.3
(4 ratings)
9.0
(2 ratings)
Implementation Rating
8.3
(5 ratings)
7.3
(1 ratings)
Configurability
9.0
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Ease of integration
3.0
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Product Scalability
6.7
(4 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Vendor post-sale
9.6
(3 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Vendor pre-sale
9.6
(3 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
User Testimonials
Ascentis (discontinued)PDS Vista
Likelihood to Recommend
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In working with Ascentis in payroll, the program makes my job so much easier. I am new to this position and the learning process has been so much easier with this product than those in the past. I appreciate the patience I am given when I call in for assistance as well.
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Personnel Data Systems (PDS)
As Vista HRMS is fully customizable to suit your needs, a company should determine if they have a current employee who can do the work themselves otherwise they will need to consider the additional cost of asking PDS to do the customizations for them. There are additional modules that we aren't currently making use of, but each company should learn about the functionality of each of them as some may be more beneficial than others. When gathering your questions, ask all potential users of the system what they would want to see in an HRMS. We did so before selecting Vista HRMS and we got pages and pages of questions and comments and made sure that each item was addressed beforehand and was something that we would be able to incorporate into the system. You have the option of taking the system in house or being a hosted client. Make sure you figure out what resources your IT department has available. If you have a dedicated administrator who will do all the upgrades and enhancements great, otherwise you may need PDS to help out and having PDS host may be a better option
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Pros
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  • Easy to use software. I have had several new HR employees comment on how easy the system is to learn!
  • Problem Solving- Ascentis is always problem solving! When we were in the process of selecting a new payroll company, we needed unemployment claims management assistance for our locations, something Ascentis did not currently offer. The sales rep went out of his way to find a unemployment claims management company that would work with Ascentis and us. That company has helped us keep an 80% win rate for our claims!
  • User conference- Engage is an awesome way to learn more about the products Ascentis has available as well and meet up with the staff you work with every day!
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Personnel Data Systems (PDS)
  • Vista HRMS is very flexible, it does everything we need for HR, benefits and payroll. It’s user-friendly and intuitive to use, when we roll out new self-service items our employees have no problems and require minimal training or documentation.
  • PDS has excellent customer service and support. We get answers to the majority of our questions and problems quickly, within the day that we call. More complex issues that may require PDS’ technical support are usually addressed within a few days. We were upgrading our production servers to Windows 2012 over a weekend and a key person in our organization was on leave. When we checked with PDS to see what cost would be involved if we needed their help, they said it was included in our regular maintenance, no extra cost.
  • The PDS User’s Conference is an excellent learning opportunity for training on everything Vista does, including using Crystal Reports for custom reporting. You also get to meet and talk to the executive and development staff and have direct input into the future product development.
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Cons
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  • Updating the system so it is one platform and not two.
  • Create changes to the benefit enrollment process and upgrade the system so hire dates do not need to be changed to trigger benefits for status changes.
  • Focus updates on HR Admin, mobile application, ATS and transitioning to one platform. Larger areas of focus have been on the payroll portion of the system with a few updates to other areas.
  • When something is broken, quicker turn time on fixing the issue.
  • System needs updates to support AAP reporting.
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Personnel Data Systems (PDS)
  • Typical of any system built for the unknown requirements of hundreds or thousands of customers with varying needs, PDS sometimes doesn't fit our processes precisely out of the box. However, this con is far outweighed by the ability to configure and customize the system.
  • The most significant pet peeve of our users is the necessity for so many clicks to navigate between different areas or the system or to review applicants. These items are being addressed based on feedback from the user community in an upcoming release.
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Likelihood to Renew
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This rating would be a 10 if it were not for some issues we have been having recently with the benefit carrier connections. The carrier connections are critical for us so how these issues are resolved will be key in our renewal decision.
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Personnel Data Systems (PDS)
I feel so invested in Vista HRMS that I don't really want to try other options. I know we as an organization are not using this product to it's full potential and that is just due to us lacking the resources to be able to invest the time into breaking it apart and making it work to the best ability for us. The system works great as is, but there are a lot of implementations we can put into place to help us out even more. For example, we would love to start using Workflow to create more efficiencies. I personally have a very good relationship with our hosted vendor who supports Vista HRMS and can help me with any issues and concerns, this is a big part of the reason that I would renew with this product and continue to be an advocate for Vista HRMS.
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Usability
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I'd give it a 7.5. If the modules were easier to access and not so buried (or placed in left field to find), I would give it a higher rating. As I said, as the potential to be great if ACCESS to other modules was easier.
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Personnel Data Systems (PDS)
The interface is intuitive, even if it does require some extra clicks to get to where you are going. The screens are consistently designed and formatted. There is a logical flow and organization to the application layout and menuing systems.
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Reliability and Availability
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They normally give you notice when an update will affect the use of the system. Otherwise, when we have an error , we send a message to the support team. Sometimes someone will get right back with you and sometimes it takes a while.
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Personnel Data Systems (PDS)
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Performance
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Yes, this pages do load pretty good but there are times when things are slow and I believe that's because they are sometimes trying to do updates.
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Personnel Data Systems (PDS)
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Support Rating
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Support is attentive and quick to answer the call and get the answer for you. If they for any reason cannot answer right then, they are back to you within a day and always seem to have a sense of urgency. You truly get the impression that they are aiming to make you happy.
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Personnel Data Systems (PDS)
PDS has excellent customer service and support. We get answers to the
majority of our questions and problems quickly, within the day that we
call. More complex issues that may require PDS’ technical support are
usually addressed within a few days
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In-Person Training
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First, to clarify our "in-person" training was done mainly through Web-X meetings and conference calls. It was the closest thing we got to as far as an "in-person" training for this software. However, for the large majority of it, this type of training worked out well. We were able to share our screens and the trainer was able to share his/her screen. We could follow along with what we were doing in our database in real time and see how different functions worked and how manipulating our information could produce different results. It was also nice in that it provided for real-time results if something hadn't been coded correctly or we were having issues as to why something wasn't working the way we thought it should be. However, it did have some downsides in that we often had to rely on a conference phone and that made it difficult to hear people on both sides. Also, sometimes the trainers had internet difficulties when working from home and that caused issues with the WebX meetings.
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Personnel Data Systems (PDS)
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Online Training
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Ascentis HR has a number of online training videos to watch on a number of different topics. I gave it a lower rating because there is not much interactivity with the videos and it seems to cater to really only one or two learning styles. Plus, one has to be pretty motivated to go to a separate area to access the videos and then pull up a specific one to watch it and then learn. From my experience, people know that they are there, many just don't take the time and effort to go find them and actually watch them - especially since the username and password are different from their normal username and password.
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Personnel Data Systems (PDS)
The resources and online tools that PDS provide are extremely thorough and helpful in our training and learning.
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Implementation Rating
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It was very easy to implement, but the customization pieces should really be fleshed out in order to determine the full need of an organization at the time of implementation. I believe if a little more time was spent on the requirements, the recruiting module would not have to be customized again at a cost at a later date.
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Personnel Data Systems (PDS)
Ask lots of questions, ensure you fully understand the functionality (particularly history records) and train, train, train the users for correct and complete utilization of the system.
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Alternatives Considered
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Ascentis has far better customer service and the implementation experience was also better. The ability to do a lot of customization is also easier with Ascentis as it's smaller organization. The payroll has positive and negatives compared to ADP but the accuracy is the same in both. Ascentis just started their community site which doesn't have a lot of traffic but hopefully can become more like ADP's community site, which was extremely helpful to me as an administrator.
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Personnel Data Systems (PDS)
I've used Peoplesoft HCM in the past. The products have some similarities, but they are marketed to different sized companies, so it's a bit of apples to oranges. Peoplesoft was very complex and challenging to manage and support. Vista HRMS should require fewer technical resources and still provide robust features for HR and Payroll. We selected Vista HRMS because it met the majority of our requirements and was priced to enable us to purchase and implement it within our budget. Also, it's an integrated system (although not truly one system when you count Vista Time) which is an improvement over our current state.
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Scalability
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Large acquisition would be very complicated, seems more appropriate for companies under 100
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Personnel Data Systems (PDS)
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Return on Investment
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  • HR DPT. is much more effective, as we can assess any employee information no matter where we are, etc. This helps to provide information immediately when requested!
  • Employees have access to Ascentis, and therefore to their timecard, open enrollment, etc., from anywhere at any time!
  • Time, PTO requests, employee goals, and evaluations can be approved from anywhere at any time!
  • Recruiting can be accessed any where at any time, and this helps with hiring, internal communication, etc.
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Personnel Data Systems (PDS)
  • Positive impact would definitely be self-service for both employees and managers to view and update selected data.
  • Through some analytics our managers are able to track turnover for their site/department by many criteria (length of service, reason, etc) and can view a number of other analytical reports such as headcount and demographics which help them to make informed decisions about their department.
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ScreenShots

Ascentis (discontinued) Screenshots

Screenshot of Access all of your details including, paychecks, personal file, timeclock, etc via our mobile app.Screenshot of Punch-in and punch-out on the go.Screenshot of Centralized location for everything related to a user or admin.Screenshot of Every employee has access to their personal information in one location.Screenshot of Pre-built reporting along with Ad Hoc reporting gives you the ability to understand your business as a whole.Screenshot of Benefit enrollment made easy for your employees.